Would Jim Brown have gotten away with all the assaults and beatings in today's world?
He is still viewed by some as the greatest football player of all time..
However, he was arrested and charge with multiple cases of assault, assault to commit murder, assault and battery, rape…..but they were either thrown out or he just got a slap on the hand.
This was in the 60’s and 70’s. Would he gotten off as light today?
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“In 1965, Brown was arrested in his hotel room for assault and battery against an 18-year-old named Brenda Ayres; he was later acquitted on the charges.[35] A year later, he fought paternity allegations that he fathered Brenda Ayres’ child. In 1968, Brown was charged with assault with intent to commit murder after model Eva Bohn-Chin was found beneath the balcony of Brown’s second-floor apartment.[36] The charges were later dismissed after Bohn-Chin refused to cooperate with the prosecutor’s office. Brown was also ordered to pay a $300 fine for striking a deputy sheriff involved in the investigation during the incident. In Brown’s autobiography, he stated that Bohn-Chin was angry and jealous over an affair he had been having with Gloria Steinem and this argument is what led to the “misunderstanding with the police.”[37]
In 1970, Brown was found not guilty of assault and battery, the charges stemming from a road-rage incident that had occurred in 1969. In 1975, Brown was sentenced to one day in prison and two years probation, and to pay a fine of $500 for beating and choking his golfing partner Frank Snow.[38] In 1985, Brown was charged with raping a 33-year-old woman.[39] The charges were later dismissed.[40] In 1986, Brown was arrested for assaulting his girlfriend Debra Clark. Clark refused to press charges, though, and Brown was released.[41] In 1999, Brown was arrested and charged with making terrorist threats toward his wife. Later that year, he was found guilty of vandalism for smashing his wife’s car with a shovel.[42] He was sentenced to three years’ probation, one year of domestic violence counseling, and 400 hours of community service or 40 hours on a work crew along with a $1,800 fine.[43] Brown ignored the terms of his sentence, and in 2000 was sentenced to six months in jail for refusing the court-ordered counseling and community service. He was released after 3 months.[44][45][46]”
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If the person was a profitable enough, or well known enough athlete, yes. Just look at all the crap some of the NFL players have gotten away with. That one fellow, whose name escapes me, the one who knocked out his girlfriend in the elevator, he was not going to be charged, because he claimed that she fell down and hit her head or something. It was not until the footage from inside the elevator showed that he beat her and knocked her out and dragged her, that he got in trouble.
And then there’s Kobe Bryant, who raped his wife, and he’s pretty much a big superstar still.
Brown was the best player of his time. I’m not sure if that would still hold true today. Football, strength, skills, etc., have all changed a lot in the last 40+ years.
To your question:
1) when you copy and paste from a website that has references and footnotes, please either include the footnotes or delete the reference numbers. Otherwise it looks silly.
2) No, of course Brown wouldn’t get away with those infractions today. But again, the world of 1970 is not the world of 2018.
Oh come on @elbanditoroso. I included the link to the website, in the first line. Sorry if I wasn’t specific enough for you.
No way he could amass such a record these days with any hope of viable employment.
The league has tried to prioritize punishing players for violence against women. Currently, a player is to be suspended for 6 weeks, if he is found to have done something along those lines. If there is another infraction, the league will view the case individually, and possibly suspend the player indefinitely.
If you want to know exact details, try reading the latest CBA between the NFLPA, and the NFL.
It’s not perfect. At all. But, it’s a step in the right direction.
Take the case of Ray Rice. He was seen on CSC knocking his girl unconscious, and dragging her out of an elevator.
He was suspended. Eventually, he never played again.
Jamies Winston (QB for the Bucc’s) was suspended for 3 games this season, for allegedly groping an Uber driver about 2 years ago. It caused a stink amongst some people, because we thought he should have gotten the mandatory 6 weeks. Not to mention, the same player had a similar allegation seemingly swept under the rug while playing in college. The state of Florida took a hit, because they seemed to “make it go away.”..
To the q. Jim Brown would probably have been eventually banned from the league. Or shunned to the point of retirement.
The Florida one…was that Tyreek Hill? I used to have a crush on him and his legs, until I learned he beat his pregnant girlfriend up in college.
It’s nice that we’re finally putting a value on women’s lives over that of a guy’s athletic ability.
It’s not about anything but money Dutch…
If it still was all about the money Ray Rice would still be playing. We finally have consequences now for things we didn’t have consequences for before.
Not quite. The league would lose sponsors, if Rice were to play. He wasn’t banned from the league. No team would sign him.
Right. So there is something to be said for changing times. It may be all about the money, but the money is changing.
Uh. Well. The ability to expose these older problems, is what has changed. The Rice video, is what did him in. I guarantee. It wasn’t an accusation. It was a disturbing visual shock. It was due to the increase in the amount of CSCs, and cellphone videos. Same with the police issues with the black community. Nothing new is happening. But it’s being recorded, and shown to the world…
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