Should Norway build the border wall?

Trump should get the Norwegians to build the US side of the border wall and ask his pal Putin to pay for it. Any small gaps could be filled with compressed snow.

Americans don’t have a side in this.

Norway can do what Norway wants to do.

After your question the other day to look up the location of those latitudes, I noticed that the border between Russia and Norway is really small. A quick search says the border is 196 km long. Oh, here is a link to a BBC news item about it, together with video and views of this amazing ‘secure’ fence. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37577547

She blinded me with Science!

(Thanks for the link—it is of interest to me right now—wanting to immerse in information about colder parts of the world and international situations to keep it interesting)

Did you even watch the BBC link? More like journalism and facts… I know how you hate those two things. Ewwww. All so true and provable.

I changed my response a bit. Thanks I WILL watch the BBC video.

I am an English/Journalism major and wrote a dissertation on Norway en lieu of the language requirement. I have respect for journalism as long as its factual. And most of it isn’t

To answer your original question, no, they should not. Much like here in the US those who are living in the area and directly affected do not want it but those in the heartland do and more importantly the initial reasoning behind its supposed necessity, according to the migration reports, has for all intents and purposes ceased and is therefore pretty much a non-issue at this time. But the wheels of government turn exceedingly slow and they are loath to admit that any idea that has been approved and funded is a bad one so on it goes.

I also found it interesting to note that Russia has a bigger and longer fence that doesn’t seem to be a deterrent so I am not sure I follow the logic of why you would expect a shorter, smaller fence in the same vicinity to work any better, unless you clear the intervening landscape and set up a kill zone between the two.

Got a link talking about details of this Syrian smuggling into Norway via Russia?

They talk about it a lot on Fox News

That was an attempt at humor. Actually it was pretty much a cut-and-paste— I was on a different computer but I’ll try to find the story.

As members of the Countries for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) all the countries agree to take asylum seekers. Norway isn’t even on the top 10 of member countries taking the most of the asylum seekers. Sweden, the UK and Australia and even tiny Netherlands take more than Norway. They aren’t ‘smuggled’ in, but a few thousand travelled into Norway and applied for asylum. What is smuggled in is alcohol and tobacco products and sex workers, and that is done by organised crime from countries like Lithuania (a new and contentious member of the EU) and Russia. Norway and Sweden and the UK and Netherlands and the rest deport unsuccessful applicants. Syrians were made a priority because of the cluster f*** the destabilisation caused in that area and Afganis were deported because, for some reason, the war zone there looked ‘less bad’. Still a country with a very active civil war going on, but not as bad as Syria. If the US stopped bombing places causing millions of civilian casualties, the rest of the world would haven’t to constantly help pick up it’s pieces and the US wouldn’t have to constantly complain about having to let in people from the war zones they help create. And last I heard it wasn’t the refugees doing the bombing and mass shooting in Norway. It was white nationalist.

Yep. White nationalists, are a YUGE problem. Not every Trump supporter is one, but every one of them is a Trump supporter…

The US government does not publicly treat them as such a danger. But our intelligence agencies do.

Norway.

They would be wise to let in as many immigrants as possible. And get lots of anti-tank weaponry. They will need all the help they can get, when Russian tanks come rolling in….

@MrGrimm888 Um, I don’t think Norway is on their list. Finland has always been on their list and if WW2 hadn’t broken out, they might have succeeded in their attempt in the 1930’s to annex it. At the end of WW2, they wanted Finland as part of the Eastern Block spoils of war, but they didn’t get it. Also, there are plenty of ex-Soviet Block countries to steal back and are easier to justify. They could take the rest of Ukraine, I mean,.. why stop at Crimea?

Why stop at Crimea? Because Obama is no longer president.

GOT IT @Zaku

What I cut and pasted was from Wikipedia itself (Norway Russia Border Wall)

From Wikipedia: The Norway–Russia border barrier is an international border barrier built by Norway on the Norway–Russia border. Construction of the barrier began in September 2016 and took a few months. The intent of the project was to prevent the smuggling and illegal crossing of migrants from the Middle East, mainly from Syria, who have used Russia as a route of entry into Norway (and thus into the European Union’s passport-free Schengen zone).

Anyone can write a Wiki entry. it is not an acceptable source. You get an F in journalism. Go to the back of the class.

I have no class . What are you talking about?

You earlier claimed to have studied journalism, but you don’t seem to know what an acceptable source is. Or you haven’t bothered or cared to keep up to date.

@ScienceChick . I think Putin would be wise to take most of Europe. If he’s going to take anything. Otherwise, a counter offensive would be organized. If I were him, I’d cut a path straight through, to the Atlantic. With Europe cut in half, he would have good supply chains, and a defensible front line. I would target a large strategic port city on the Atlantic. If he’s going to do something else, I think he’ll go big. Russian forces would make short work of most of Europe. Especially if they just did it all at once..

Why haven’t they done it yet, then, I wonder, @MrGrimm888 ?

Obviously, the port he wants is Rotterdam. Or even Gdansk, or hell, why not both! Quick… let’s go run and tell him these plans he should be making!

@ScienceChick As you know, I was already interested in the Northern part of Scandinavia. Because Norway, border walls, transversing international barriers, Russia, Syria, refugees, etc etc have been such a part of American political controversy / questions, it seemed humourous to post a question that used these terms but were in reference to something else.

This question had nothing to do with journalism. It was an attempt at humour, but hopefully cull some information about the Russia / Norwegian border which I AM especially interested in right now.

Thanks again for the BBC link.

To All others: This is NOT my view on the wall. It was in reference to a Wikipedia article. If you don’t like this point of view, it is the view of Wiccans, Blame Wicca.

Nah, we norwegians are not good wall builders, but I hear the chinese has a pretty great wall. Maybe ask them? ;)

@ScienceChick . Putin hasn’t done it yet, because there would be ramifications. If Trump can continue to destabilize the US, Putin will see an opportunity to get it done.

Uh, I think Russia is getting destabilized by Trump. New trade alliances are leaving dependency on Russia out in the cold.

hahahahhaa! @Yellowdog is the local comedian, isn’t he? That’s why Russia just dumped all it’s US Treasury bonds and is buying gold. It’s distancing itself on the dependence of a stable US dollar.

Russia needs to do SOMETHING. They’re losing ground and will soon be totally alienated fro the free world, except those few NATO countries under our protection but loyal to Putin.

I am GLAD to know that the fact that I am the local comedian is why Russia did this. Didn’t know they gave a flip about me. Thanks for passing this along from the Kremlin

It isn’t Russia isolating itself from the rest of the world by putting tariffs on their trade partners. Healthy trade partners benefits peaceful stability in regions. Taking a zero-sum attitude in diplomacy or trade is totally ignorant. Russia will sell soybeans to China and the US farmers will get money from the US government that is funded debt to China. China gets soy beans, Russian economy gets money from China, and China gets to hold even more debt over the US. Keep taking your Oxy and watching Faux.

So, what does all this have to do with the Russia / Norwegian border?

So what does the Russia / Norwegian border have anything to do with the US building a superficial, meaningless wall on the Mexican border?

Nothing of which I am aware. This is a question about the Norway / Russia border fence and should they build a wall. What gave you the idea that it had anything to do with the U.S./ Mexico wall?

@Yellowdog You are a fucking troll. You can fuck the fuck off.

Why would they want to?

Added to this I prophecy that this imaginary wall of Trump will NEVER be built.

Trump has been in office for 19 months and not a single brick has been laid and he is having extreme difficulty getting funding to do it.

I don’t know why because you Americans will end up paying for it in your taxes if he does get the money.

How many times has funding for the border wall not been passed? That’s not Trump’s fault.

@ScienceChick I would, but no opportunities available. But I hear there are other trolls in Norway.

I don’t understand why Trump doesn’t just start a GoFundMe account for his monument wall.

Can you guys PLEEEEEEZE start another thread about a Mexico/U.S. Wall?

This is a thread about the Norwegian Russian border fence. I like to get opinions about it because its cold up there and people are nicer, more liberal and homogenous than here.

The further south you go, we get jes plain iggernaut and stupit. An its too dang HOT in thes here south. Unlike them white FLIGHT countries in the North.

Seriously, stay on topic with Norway and Russia.

It’s not cold up there an people are tolerant to a point. On behalf of my friends from Finmark… fuck off.

Where are YOU from, @ScienceChick—I got the impression somewhere that you weren’t a ‘merican. I never really felt at home in this country, even though I know the northern countries are probably more liberal than what I am accustomed. Do you have a Scandinavian background?

I don’t understand why Trump doesn’t just start a GoFundMe account to build another wall between Norway and Russia for his lil’bud and mentor Putin. Might keep him occupied for a while.

Trump has nothing to do with a wall between Russia and Norway.

Well, he should have. Why should he only fuck up our part of the world?

Ok, I found some stuff about the Norway wall, LOL. https://youtu.be/S_LZJRh2pr0

I am surprised. I thought it would be a ridiculous thing that no Syrian would attempt, but I guess during the summer it is a way to actually get into a meaningful part of Norway. Funny and kind of sad.

@Zaku Funny how you found the exact same link as I did.

I’m more inclined to believe @Zaku , who is a Norwegian, than @ScienceChick with the same link.

@Yellowdog well, that says more about you, then, Yellowdog. I may not be Norwegian, but unless Zaku shows his birth certificate, I’m surprise you believe he is. (I thought Staalesen was the Norwegian here.)

Two down, about eighty more to go. You’re not American, you’re not Norwegian. And you have an excellent vocabulary and ability to explain things. I’ll figure out your nationality eventually.

Well, I guess you know I was kidding. I did watch the PBS video earlier and thanked you for it earlier in the thread. Staalesen is also Norwegian.

My guess is she’s a Netherlander.

Or a Highlander. Cut her head off, and you get her power…

@ScienceChick @Yellowdog That was hilarious! :-D

@Zaku Somewhere I thought I read you were a Norwegian Guess I was wrong, you said somewhere else I think that you were just another United Stateser.