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Do you think the voters energized by the seriousness of the upcoming election will be enough to offset all the voters being disenfranchised by voter ID laws?

Asked by SaganRitual (2072points) October 14th, 2018

The ACLU reports possibly hundreds of thousands of people being disenfranchised in one way or another, with the support of the US Supreme Court. Do you think the energized voters will outnumber the disenfranchised voters?

https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/supreme-court-enables-mass-disenfranchisement-north-dakotas-native-americans

https://www.aclu.org/search/%20?f%5B0%5D=field_issues%3A285

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filmfann's avatar

No. The current disenfranchisement of voters will have a major impact on the election. There will be a lot of voters who will vote because of this, but it will not offset the number of removed voters.
We have to hope the outrage is enough.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

@SaganRitual Do you live in North Carolina?
This disenfranchisement is a plank in the NC GOP’s platform.

I hope enough new young voters see the light and vote.

ragingloli's avatar

I can not wait for the local right wingers to try and justify or handwave the disenfranchisement of the only real americans.

JeSuisRickSpringfield's avatar

The voter ID laws are probably not as big an obstacle as the voter purges that are happening in some states. Everyone is up in arms about Georgia, where the guy in charge of who gets to vote is purging voters while running for office, but the purges have been going on for months thanks to the Supreme Court.

seawulf575's avatar

I think the disenfranchisement of voters by voter ID laws is a myth. 34 out of 50 states have voter ID laws and some have had them for quite some time. There is no evidence that voter ID laws inhibit voting at all. Will the Kavanaugh decision energize voters? Probably…on both sides. Did voter ID laws? Not at all.

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Yellowdog's avatar

I’ve said it before and got lots of hate,

But I have twice in my lifetime have someone else vote in my name. Even though, both times, after interrogations, been allowed to vote—whoever DID vote in my name did it illegally and probably cancelled out my vote, since they probably didn’t vote the way I did.

I don’t really think you have to have much I.D. to vote. Its almost like, a civil rights issue, to ask for I,D, at the poles. They may ASK for it, but if they don’t have it they get to vote anyway as whoever they claim they are. Maybe a piece of stolen mail or improperly discarded records from some doctor or government office.

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Jeruba's avatar

My husband has been a registered voter in California and voted faithfully for more than 50 years. A month ago his driver’s license renewal came due, and at the DMV they asked him if he also wanted to register to vote. He came home and told me how stupid they were to ask him that after all these years. I said “Go look”—and when he went online to check his registration, he found out his name had been dropped from the rolls. He reregistered in some haste and chagrin. It pays to check.

Interference in elections doesn’t have to occur in the form of messing with the outcomes. All it has to do is disqualify enough voters in the right places. That happened last time (2016), and it’ll happen again. No reason to think it can’t be done by different people in different ways and for different reasons; catching one won’t stop the others. The whole system is compromised, and now who will trust the reported results?

seawulf575's avatar

@Jeruba Your story highlights two problems. The first is the purging of names, which you identified. The other is illegal voters. California has made it possible for illegal aliens to get driver’s licenses. So when their driver’s licenses come due for renewal, they will be asked if they want to register to vote. Basically, California has a screwed system.

gorillapaws's avatar

What energized voters? The DNC has a proven track record of corruption and failure and the leaders are still the same or worse. The only thing they’re willing to fight tooth-and-nail for is to prevent a progressive takeover so they can keep their power and corporate donations. They have no ability to promote policy that would energize the electorate because they’ve sold out to special interests that don’t want them to change a damn thing, so they parade around vapid platitudes, rig primaries for establishment candidates, protect their own, and try to sling mud at Trump, in the hopes that it will be enough for a blue wave.

The leadership of the Democratic party is incompetent beyond description. So no, I don’t think they’ll get the voters energized.

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