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elbanditoroso's avatar

Would you do business with a law firm that doesn't employ female lawyers?

Asked by elbanditoroso (33574points) December 26th, 2018

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A new Fluther member joined a few minutes ago; their name implied that they are a law firm in the southeastern United States.

I followed the link on the personal profile attached to that Fluther name; indeed it takes you to the law firm’s web page. And right there on the main web page – six male lawyers. No women. At all.

Would you do business with a firm that apparently feels that women can’t be law partners?

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ragingloli's avatar

6 people is a tiny sample size.

elbanditoroso's avatar

That’s all they showed on their website, and if you look at their list of lawyers, that’s all that are on the list..

KNOWITALL's avatar

If it bothers you, I would ask. Maybe they just haven’t made a woman partner yet, or it’s pending, or someone is almost there. I wouldn’t assume prejudicial behavior without asking.

ragingloli's avatar

And also, if I ever get into the situation that I need a lawyer, I would not exactly have the luxury to worry about that.

josie's avatar

Give me a few minutes to figure out why I would give a shit.

But isn’t it a jump of logic to say that because a particular firm has no female lawyers, it can only be because they have institutionally decided that women can not be partners?

Maybe the founding partner was a female and she retired.
Maybe two female partners embezzled money and are now in prison.
Maybe a couple of the partners used to be female, but have had sex reassignment surgery.

Etc.

Qav's avatar

That, for me, would depend upon if a competent lawyer, who is a woman, applied and was rejected purely because she is a woman.

JLeslie's avatar

It probably wouldn’t bother me. It’s just 6 of them. As long as they treated me with respect I would be fine with it. If it was their policy not to hire a woman that’s a different situation maybe.

Jeruba's avatar

“Doesn’t” is one thing, and “won’t” is another. Would you want to be represented by an attorney who was hired for what’s inside her underwear instead of what’s inside her head?

In any case, profile spammers on Fluther aren’t going to get any business from me other than a flagging.

rebbel's avatar

I would specifically search for a firm that has women employed.
Obviously, them working there would mean they qualify.
Plus, women rule.
In my book.

gorillapaws's avatar

Women in the aggregate tend to willingly choose career paths that value flexibility over salary and position. For example, if you were to offer 100 men and 100 women the opportunity to choose between a very high-paying corporate law position that involved lots of frequent international travel, or a lower-paying law position that was more 9–5 with weekends off and no business travel, statistically, women will gravitate to the lower paying position by choice and men will choose the higher-paying, less-flexible position at a much higher rate.

I’m not saying that this explains all cases of gendered wage discrimination, but it is my understanding that this phenomena does explain the bulk of it.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Well, what would people think if those 6 were all female,. and no males?

KNOWITALL's avatar

@Dutchess_III In my time in business, I’m going to say that could go either way. Either it would be popular now because of the political climate, or it could fail miserably as women may choose not to support other women. We are catty sometimes…ha

Dutchess_III's avatar

Why would you assume that only women would seek the services of female attorneys?

KNOWITALL's avatar

@Dutchess_III I didn’t say ‘only women’.

Some women may feel they are getting a better deal, or ‘heard’ with female attorneys, but that certainly wouldn’t preclude men from using their firm as well.

Dutchess_III's avatar

You seemed to imply that women would have the power to shut a firm like that down: ”....it could fail miserably as women may choose not to support other women”

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

6 people is a tiny sample size.

Agreed, I would not assume the all-male stance is intentional, It would be very different if it were 30 or 100 attorneys.

I would be much more interested in their track record and references.

Caravanfan's avatar

Sure, as long as they’re competent. There is a local brewery run by five male friends. Their beer is good. I have no problem going to their brewery.

stanleybmanly's avatar

The indictment might hold were there 60 lawyers, but 6 is just too small a sample from which to draw legitimate conclusions.

Qav's avatar

@Caravanfan wrote:
“Sure, as long as they’re competent. There is a local brewery run by five male friends. Their beer is good. I have no problem going to their brewery.”

Now, I don’t know. This sounds very healthy for a business . . . .

kritiper's avatar

I would be more concerned about my legal issues before thinking of anything they have or have not going on.

LostInParadise's avatar

I would be concerned about the quality of the work they do and by how much they charge. Not having any female partners would be one mark against them, but not enough on its own to preclude a business relationship.

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