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Why are people being ungenerous/make a big fuss just for a coin?

Asked by Unofficial_Member (5107points) January 3rd, 2019

Here is the video showing that people who have given away their coins and expect to take it back. First of all, coins have minuscle value. Second, it’s shameless to want to take back what you have given to others. Third, it’s the result of your own decision so it’s better to gracefully accept the consequence instead of blaming that people have lied to you. Goodness, as if it’s not easier to just walk away and let it go.

I have many coins that I got from purchase exchanges and I would happilly give them away even without them asking. I wouldn’t want to be seen taking my coins back from the donation can after I put them in.

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Irukandji's avatar

Surely you’re not stupid enough to think it’s the amount of money that’s at issue here, right?

Dutchess_lll's avatar

I can’t watch the video. Synopsis please?

Pinguidchance's avatar

“First of all” almost correct spelling of minuscule, not many get as far as you did.

Second of all you say and I quote, “I have many coins that I got from purchase exchanges and I would happilly (sic) give them away’’ where do you keep these coins and what is their approximate total value.

Third of all you say and I quote, “even without them asking” please contact me privately for information as to where to send the coins.

Unofficial_Member's avatar

@Irukandji I think it’s more foolish to make a fuss over something that is cheap and replacable. Yes, the value can dictate what one should do. Wasting unnecessary energy just to get upset and be seen in the public taking money out of donation can is productive for you, isn’t it? I would’ve just walked away instead of letting a (supposedly) liar tamper the happy times in my day.

@Dutchess_lll It’s a prank video where people donate to the deaf person but that person is revealed to be able to hear in the end. They just give a coin and take it back by force out of donation can in the public.

@Pinguidchance Thanks for noticing that I’m missing a letter while typing, it’s not like any of us haven’t done that before. I kept those in my clutch. In fact, had so many that my clutch keep on ringing whenever I move it around, not to mention the weight and extra space my clutch would have to give up for the coins. I don’t even use them to purchase anything, it’ll be embarassing to buy using coins and the cashier would have to count them one by one. I personally think the age of coin is over. Yes, certainly it’s more lucrative for me to send coins overseas than simply giving them out to people around me.

chyna's avatar

The point in taking your money back isn’t the amount of money given. It’s the fact you were lied to and gave your money to a man who pretended to be deaf. Liars and cheaters should never get away with taking other people’s money fraudulently.

Unofficial_Member's avatar

^^ I see. So people are still worrying about that. I’m the pragmatic type so that kind of thing doesn’t bother me at all. What matters is that at the end of the day I don’t lose anything.

Patty_Melt's avatar

I would demand the man perform some entertainment to earn my coin, a song, joke, or other talent, so he can claim legitimate ownership of my coin.

seawulf575's avatar

So to you it is the amount of the money, not the scam. So what is the value that you feel should be fought for? a quarter? A dollar? 10 dollars? 100 dollars? The point is that most people don’t care about the amount they gave. It is meaningless to them. But they gave it in an effort to help someone or for a cause they thought could help many. Instead they found out it was a scam artist using fraud to get what he wants. It is insulting to them and makes them feel cheated and used. It “tampered” their happy times in their day. Getting the coin back will make them feel vindicated…that in some small way justice was served.

Demosthenes's avatar

Ugh, prank videos. The pustule on the armpit of YouTube.

At first I wasn’t sure what the context of this question was. As soon as I saw “prank” I got it. Anyway, @chyna summed it up. Not much more to say about this.

LuckyGuy's avatar

I agree with @chyna. I would have been pissed as well. But I would have walked away and called the cops. Scam artists should not benefit by preying upon the good-hearted. The scammers are indirectly hurting legitimate charities.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I finally watched it. Oh that was funny!! It was a total Candid Camera thing! I loved the Laurel and Hardy music.
But I have to ask, if those are actual people, and not actors, why would they’d give someone money just because he’s deaf? If it was a legit charity, what would it matter if the guy collecting the money for the “Deaf People Foundation” was deaf or not?

Anyway, Here is this. IT’S A REAL GORILLA MAN!!

gondwanalon's avatar

Pranks can be dangerous. The guy is lucky he didn’t get slugged. Taking back the donation is a reasonable response.

Dutchess_III's avatar

It was a gag. Like the gorilla one I posted above. I suppose he took a MAJOR risk of getting shot or stabbed or whatever over a quarter, but I thought it was funny.

chyna's avatar

I’m not really a fan of pranks, but I think the difference in the prank you posted @Dutchess_III and the one in the OP is that the one in the OP is taking advantage of a real disability that the man didn’t have and pulled on people’s heart strings to get them to donate money.

Dutchess_III's avatar

There is that, and I agree with you @chyna. But it was really super weird that without fail, every one gave one quarter. I just wonder if they were all actors.

Unofficial_Member's avatar

@Dutchess_III I think they edited the whole video before they publish it. There could’ve been people that simply don’t care and walk away and the producer think that isn’t funny so only the ones that give the interesting reactions are taken.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

Ok I have to ask what each of your reactions might have been? How many of you would have angrily taken your quarter back?

Unofficial_Member's avatar

Not me, @Dutchess_lll . I would have simply walked away and not think about it. I don’t care what he’ll do with my coin. If anything, he actually helped me to get rid of my coins.

seawulf575's avatar

I’d have probably read the guy the riot act making sure as many people as I could heard what a scammer he was.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Pretty much what I would have done @Unofficial_Member. I’d probably chuckle and walk away. I’d like to think I’d be sharp enough to quickly catch on to the joke.

Irukandji's avatar

@Unofficial_Member You don’t have to go into emotional breakdown mode to decide that you want to take your money back, so all of your rhetoric about wasting energy and letting the prank ruin your day is immaterial. The whole premise of your question is mistaken anyways. It’s not ungenerous to take back something that was obtained fraudulently. For all you know, every single one of these people went on to give their coins to someone who actually needed them.

Unofficial_Member's avatar

@Irukandji There’s no need for something as extreme as emotional breakdown to ruin your happiness, anger alone (as shown by people in the video) is not a good experience and can tamper your happy day, not to mentioned being seen in the public taking money out of a donation can (no stranger will stop and ask why, they’ll think of you as a shameless person for doing that). You called it “donation”, that means you’re not supposed to take it back after you donate it. It is, indeed, ungenerous to take back your donation. If you’re generous to give your money in the first place, the reverse is also true, that you’re ungenerous to want to take it back, regardlesss of the circumstansces what’s given is given. Anyway, if you want to make a fuss for a single coin then feel free to do so. For all we know we could’ve even accidentally dropped a coin in to gutter and we won’t think too much about it (who would waste energy to get angry and try their best to take back a single coin?). At the end of the day, a single coin isn’t worth the trouble and can be given to anybody without much issue.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Anger is an emotional breakdown sometimes.

Irukandji's avatar

@Unofficial_Member ” being seen in the public taking money out of a donation can (no stranger will stop and ask why, they’ll think of you as a shameless person for doing that)”

You seem to be way too concerned about what other people think of you. It’s a sickness, and you should think about trying to get over it. For someone who feels like their money was taken from them fraudulently, I imagine that wanting justice negates any worries about being seen as shameless. Also, think about how foolish an onlooker would have to be to draw such conclusions without knowing the facts.

“You called it “donation”, that means you’re not supposed to take it back after you donate it.”

I never called it a “donation.” In fact, I haven’t used the word “donation” in any of my answers until now. That’s what you’ve been calling it, but I think your word choice obscures the fact that the money is being obtained fraudulently. Let’s think about a different situation: a person on the street tries to trick me into buying flowers for someone who they know is deathly allergic to them. I purchase the flowers and am about to hand them to this person when they tell me they will die if they touch them. Is it ungenerous to stop handing them the flowers? Is it ungenerous to ask demand my money back and perhaps call the police for attempted murder? I don’t think so. When the information we have available changes, then our decisions and feelings ought to change with it. When the facts change, I change my mind. Do you just plow through no matter what even when you learn new things?

“If you’re generous to give your money in the first place, the reverse is also true, that you’re ungenerous to want to take it back, regardless of the circumstansces what’s given is given.”

Nope. This is a logical fallacy. When circumstances change, our evaluation of actions must also change. If your thinking was true, there would be no difference between shooting a gun at a target when the range is empty and shooting a gun at a target when there is someone in the way. It’s the same action, and only the circumstances are different. If that’s really how you think, then you have a pretty messed up mind.

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