What do you think about a neutral zone for Mexico and the US?

What is the point? To create an economic area that can undercut the cost of manufacturing in either country? We had that with NAFTA which was working well until the current administration came along.

The US needs manpower to work here legally.

As an alternative, the US could simply invade Mexico and make it another state.

You know that area will quickly evolve into a crime ridden dark zone, especially when policing is done at a “private level”, which is code for “We will take your money to look the other way”.
A paradise for drugs, prostitution, guns, and the free black market.
I think it is a great idea.

California was floating the idea of seceding from the US. Could we use CA as th area to be used? Get rid of it from the US? It would be almost ideal since it would have access from both Mexico and the US, would have seaports for shipping goods, would have a variety of environmental areas that could be used for everything from agriculture to heavy industry.

“California was floating the idea of seceding from the US.”

It wasn’t. A few folks might have thought it’s a good idea, but you have those in every state.

“It wasn’t. A few folks might have thought it’s a good idea, but you have those in every state.”

That may be, but not every state creates a name for the movement (Calexit), forms up a separate party to help drive the effort (California National Party), and none of the efforts in the other states is covered by ABC, CBS, CNBC, NBC, USA Today, LA Times, The Sacramento Bee, the SF Chronicle, NY Magazine, NY Post, and many others.

You mean a “no man’s land?” I’m all for it!

@seawulf575 we Californians would love it, not having to support the red states.

@seawulf575

Big deal. Anyone can form a political party based around any gimmick they like. There are parties out there with like 1 or 2 members. It means nothing. Get back to me when this idea gains traction in the California legislature.

As for media coverage: if the media is all sensationalism then what does that matter? A few years ago a man with ridiculous sideburns, who lived in his apartment rent-free and still complained that the rent was too high, got a good amount of media coverage. Does that make him a serious candidate for the presidency? Of course not. It just means the media knows how to sell copy.

@Darth_Algar But the question still remains. If every state has these groups that want to have their state secede from the union, why is California the only one that gets all the press coverage and why is it the only one that has formed a political group to push the issue? You can pooh-pooh all you want, but you are still avoiding those questions. Yes, the media loves selling copy…I got that. But why not show more drives for secession? Why focus only on CA? You are avoiding those sorts of questions.

Yeah, I can already see that this is quickly going to become as pointless and tiresome as every other conversation with you.

Then why do you try jumping in on my comments? You know I’m going to respond and most times you end up with nothing backing you up. It really is pointless.

@Darth_Algar some day you’ll learn.

Some states like South Carolina had debates in Congress; to secede from the Union in 2018.

I had the privilege of visiting the Korean “Demilitarized” Zone about 20 years ago. It is supposed to be a buffer between North and South Korea. Note I put air quotes around the word demilitarized since it is one of the most militarized places on the planet.
I read someplace that the flora and fauna are evolving a little differently there.

As for the US Mexico border, I don’t see how a zone would help. There would still be desperate people trying to get across the edges of the zones.

I’ve heard it said that if you stood the country on end all of the nuts would roll to California. And, like they sometimes say, “The squeaky wheel gets the grease.”

@seawulf575

Your idea that California’s succession is somehow a serious thing is, frankly, absurd. You’re trying to argue that it’s a mountain where there’s a molehill.

@Tropical_Willie

Incorrect. A couple of South Carolina state lawmakers had the idea of introducing a bill that would have asked the hypothetical question of secession in the event that the federal government began illegally confiscating guns. This bill never even made it to the floor of the state legislature. At not point was the secession of South Carolina (or indeed any state) seriously discussed in Congress.

@Zenvelo, you “Californians” can’t even agree with each other. There is another movement to make most of CA (by area) a separate state…the 51st. Most of the state (by area) doesn’t want anything to do with the liberal drivers in LA and SF.