When is toilet paper wasted?

When more is used than is what’s actually practical. It’s a matter of personal choice. If you think the amount used is just right, and nobody else is there to see how much you used, can it be “wasted?”

My husband hounds me all the time about using too much TP. Sonny on The View says her husband does the same thing. It’s ridiculous. The only time I have actually agreed someone was wasting toilet paper was when my sister was 3 or 4 years old, and she had streams of paper on the floor. People use what they need otherwise, and it is none of anyone’s business. Especially men need to take a chill pill about how much TP a woman uses.

@JLeslie Your husband is a jerk for saying that. I know, harsh words, but really, when was the last time he actually took care of a woman’s hygiene needs? Not only is it entirely subjective from person to person and brand to brand what constitutes “enough” or “too much”, but the urination methods of men and women are so entirely, physiologically, different as to brook no comparison.

Get him a little book, suitable for second graders, that explains the difference.

It’s wasted if one simply throws it out for no reason without using any.

How quickly we move from a factual question to male-bashing!!

@canidmajor Well, it isn’t that serious. It’s not like he actually tries to limit how much I use. It’s more like an ongoing joke. I’d prefer he didn’t do it, because I know part of him really does think I use a lot, but he buys Porsche’s so WTH ground does he have to walk on? It bothers me more when he says something about the grocery bill.

@elbanditoroso I don’t do too much male bashing, but this one I admit to characterizing men as the group most likely to complain and be unreasonable on this topic, but I would not stereotype that most men do. My dad never said one word about TP usage, I think that is more likely the norm. My dad complained about not crushing a box before putting it in the trash can. I think that is the only wasteful complaint I ever heard from him that was annoying. You know, to save trash bags. He did complain about the cost of groceries or clothing when I was young if he paid attention, but it was rare he paid attention.

Men just don’t seem to grasp how much difference there is for people who can’t shake and tap.

@elbanditoroso Where do you get “male bashing”? It was “specific person bashing”.

^^ I was just going to say that too.

See a trend here?

@JLeslie wrote: My husband hounds me all the time about using too much TP. Sonny on The View says her husband does the same thing. It’s ridiculous

@canidmajor wrote: Your husband is a jerk for saying that. I know, harsh words, but really, when was the last time he actually took care of a woman’s hygiene needs?

@canidmajor then likened him to a second grader: Get him a little book, suitable for second graders, that explains the difference.

All men are my brothers…

@elbanditoroso Guess you and the Donald have a good time together then.

Ahhh, I see. All comments need to be using neutral pronouns. But then would it be “spouse bashing”? Or just simply “human bashing”? But wait, the very word “human” incorporates the word “man”. “Higher order primate bashing”. There, will that do?

Halloween.
Note that females need to use more since they have periods and men don’t, so clean up is needed more so.
Last time someone complained ( ex) I bought my OWN supply out of my own pocket ( I worked all my life).

Usually when someone complains of use of too much TP, its really about the finances or some other problem that is not addressed in the relationship.

Sorry @elbanditoroso, I love being a contrarian, but you’re being ridiculous here. I guess men are flawless and can never be criticized for anything? Same goes for women, Muslims, Christians, conservatives…?

Three squares of Charmin per wipe. That’s my policy. The number of wipes varies. Won’t go into details.

Three squares. See what I mean? If I tell my husband to hand me some toilet paper he’ll ask me how many squares. He used to give me one square, which is ridiculous, so now he’ll ask me how many. I don’t know any woman who does this. Women give you a handful and ask if it’s enough.

I don’t have kids, but my guess is if any underwear has skid marks it’s boy children compared to girl children, just guessing. All this stinginess in toilet paper use.

All in fun really, I’m not actually annoyed or angry.

@Demosthenes when did I say that men were flawless? Never. You’re putting words in my mouth to make a false argument.

@Demosthenes But you’re getting upset over a criticism of men (originally, a specific example, not an “all men are X” statement) and I don’t see why it’s wrong to make this criticism. My friend’s girlfriend takes forever in the shower getting ready, makeup and all that. It’s very annoying when I’m visiting and we have a time limit on something. I’ve asked him many times to talk to her about it. If women are offended by this criticism, then…

@elbanditoroso You are responsible for derailing this thread. We just responded.

So, @elbanditoroso, what is your take on when TP is wasted? (After all, that is the original ”factual” question.)

@jleslie Just curious. Why is your husband in the bathroom with you and closer to the toilet paper than you are while you are on the toilet? Inquiring minds…

Ha! @chyna excellent question!

My wife tells me I go through too much. Dad worked in a paper mill so we got free product. Problem is that it was the industrial “John Wayne” variety that does not take much to do its job. After I destroy a bathroom now I can go through half a roll of the fluffy fancy stuff before I feel clean. Makes me want to go shit to shower just so I don’t have to hear about all the TP being gone.

@canidmajor – you need enough paper to clean the regions that need cleaning. Of course.

There isn’t – there can’t be – a rule that says ‘maximum 5 pieces’. That’s beyond obvious. You use what you need. End of subject.

Wow!
I honestly think Rick uses more than me. Not sure how or why, but I think so. I just know we buy a LOT more TP than we did when it was just me and the 4 kids alone.

Wasting or not wasting toilet paper is the right of every American no doubt but in your mind how much more than your normal reasonable usage would you consider wasteful?

By wasteful….I’m thinking squares and layers that didn’t make skin contact or got wet.

I have a habit of folding my layers once and using it to wipe again. I know someone who wipes once with several squares and throws it away and then pulls out another fresh batch.

He needs it thick as comfortable barrier between his hand and butt.

@chyna He sometimes is just observing that the brand new roll of TP he replaced yesterday is already half gone.

Sometimes he’s on the toilet and I need some TP to blow my nose, or for make-up, and I ask him to hand me some.

My sister used a paper towel holder for her TP in her old apartment so she could put two rolls at a time. That was a bit of brilliance. It attached to the wall like a typical TP holder.

@ARE_you_kidding_me The very fluffy paper does require using more, I agree with that. I don’t like really soft paper like Charmin.

@mazingerz88 I can’t really imagine knowing that about a person. :-)

@JLeslie…. so you are in the bathroom sometimes when he goes poop?

@Dutchess_III Not usually, but yes sometimes. He has a door on the toilet room if he wants to close it. If I need to get something from the bathroom, and I am rushing to get out of the house, I am not going to wait. You are in public bathroom with people you don’t know while they are going to the bathroom if it is multi-stall. It’s not much different.

You never need more than 4 pieces.

HA HA HA HA HA!!! Maybe if you don’t care if you have pee and poop all over your hands Raggy!

True story… A while back, someone here asked how long a roll lasts. I calculated the number of sheets per use, number of times per “event”, and number of events per day. then divided that into the number of sheets on a roll. That gave me an estimate of how many days a roll lasts.

I then verified the result by writing the installation date inside the roll with a sharpie marker. When It was time to change the roll I had my answer.

I will take that number to the grave. :-)
I should probably take the fact that I even ran the experiment to the grave as well!

^Your wife must think you are weird.

@Dutchess_III
Then your toilet paper is just crap.

@LuckyGuy Your friends think you are weird. :-)

Some things are just between a girl and Wyerhauser.

(I’m not sure why my last comment quoted myself. I’m dumb).

@ragingloli True. When I’m using crummy 0.0001 ply public bathroom toilet paper I just wad up as much of it as possible. Not the same with thick soft Charmin :P

I have long fingernails. Four squares could not possibly be enough.

My turn to derail, I hate the pillowy kind. It is all lint searching for a home.

Just tried 4. No go. 6 did it. Lol

Lol….... to infinity

I spent three summers as an intern quality testing TP at a paper mill. What they don’t tell you is that the cheap stuff found in like national park bathrooms is more effective at um.. well. The fluffy stuff not so much. Also the industrial rolls are more dense and the fluffy stuff is more loosely wrapped. The industrial type is more recycled paper and the premium is made from more tree killing virgin fiber. To this day, I can pick up a roll and tell you how it was made, what the defects are and how much recycled material is in it.

And I do not want do sandpaper my asshole.

I could have guessed that @ARE_you_kidding_me. The fluffy stuff just kind of slides around and doesn’t seem to do much.

It actually spreads it around like peanut butter on bread.

Wish I could unread that.

This might just be the weirdest conversation of Fluther yet….

When is toilet paper wasted? When it’s used for drying hands.

Who really knows?

This is a shit question ;-}

Wiping arseholes…we have staff for that!

Oh, it’s back

Promise 2b nice?

wasted tp

@theguy12
Who’s the asshole

When is it wasted….when you use it to wrap a house!

Good grief. I went to the can and peed (it was orange BTW) and unwound my normal amount then counted the squares….9. Final answer.

Orange? What did you drink?!

I’m wondering if the color of the pee would have had an effect on the number of pieces of TP. If your pee had been clear, would 6 have been sufficient?

No. It’s UTI meds.

Too many variables. Quality of the toilet paper. Pee or poop. What kind of bowel movement.

Folding technique also matters. My 9yo scrunches it up and I find that that method is less effective than folding it neatly. That way you can do a fold over and use it for a second wipe if you’ve got a large enough square.

Wiping technique also comes into play. How effective is each wipe? I also run it under the sink before wiping my kids. More effective and uses less paper than a dry wipe.

@LuckyGuy LOL I like you.

Oh this is crazy LOL!!!

@raum There are also those Cottonelle flushable wet wipes. I can’t imagine life without ‘em

@Demosthenes Most flushable wipes actually aren’t flushable! Might set you back on some hefty plumber fees. If you use them, I would toss them in the trash!

You boys are SO fastidious considering you never have to deal with periods, or after sex drip drip, or after birth clean up or UTIs (usually caused by vigorous intercourse.)

I take.my 9!

I can’t spare a square.

@raum Thanks! It gets worse! I have access to very good lab equipment so I can measure things most people ignore or take for granted. I verified the number of sheets on a full roll by roll by subtracting off the mass of an empty tube and dividing the remainder by the mass ofa sheet. The result was surprisingly close .
My scale has a resolution of 10 mg, which is about ½0 the mass of a single square of store brand toilet paper, 200 mg.

Hey. If you don’t measure, you don’t know what you’ve got. :-)

^So many things I could say here. But I won’t.

@raum, remember, @LuckyGuy once engaged in a serious discussion on how to retrieve a few micrograms of mayonnaise from a jar with ridges.

https://www.fluther.com/175578/does-your-plastic-mayonaisse-container-have-ridges-running-around-its-middle/

@LuckyGuy is just cool that way.

I salute your curiosity and precision in the pursuit of random knowledge, Sir.

[salute to LuckyGuy]

I say: if you’ve got the tools, use them!
I can tell you how many BBs are in the 600 shot BB gun, or how many doses are left in a metered dose inhaler, or whether or not a pellet gun is cocked.and the chamber filled with compressed air.
In my house, there is never a question about who got the bigger piece of cake.
I don’t know how people survive without a Mettler.

I love your brain @LuckyGuy!

@LuckyGuy My grandfather worked his entire career at Toledo Scale.

@ARE_you_kidding_me Oh!!! I’ll bet he had super scales at home! Did he have the one that used tiny chains? .0001 gram resolution! It was a beautiful piece of work!

I’m getting woozy from the tumescence twixt my thighs! :-)

Good God Y’all!

He retired from there in the early 1980’s before the merger. His basement was a literal man cave before that was even a thing. It was full of every tool imaginable, a big gun case, massive fish tank and all manner of dirty jokes on the walls. He even had a little cot and his own shower down there. All of it built by hand in what once was the crawlspace. The stairs leading to it were like scaling a cliff and I assumed it was to keep grandma and the kids out. Never stopped me though, that place was magical.

Magical indeed! I’ll bet that influenced your career and life in ways you never dreamed possible.
You were a lucky kid.

I was and he really did.

I hope the impression I leave on my grandchildren is as positive.

Toilet paper is wasted when you try to roll a joint with it.

Lol