Why would Iran default on international agreements, incur harsh economic sanctions, then provoke the US to war?

I hope you realize that it was the US who pulled out of the agreement with Iran and the account of the responsible party for the bombing of the ship is debatable. Bolton wants a war.

What @janbb said.

@SaganRitual: “How do you feel about the fact that the harsh economic sanctions against Iran are causing suffering only among the citizenry, not the ruling class?”

Sanctions are violence, and you are correct about the target of the violence. Also see Venezuela.

@janbb Yes, all of that is the reason I’m wondering, is it even plausible that Iran would do any of the things we’re hearing? I can’t make any sense of them doing it.

I think it’s a wag the dog to “unite” or, at least,distract the populace.

The worst part is, this plot to create a pretense for war is so transparent, yet the world still falls for it, or worse, knows that it is a sham, yet plays along, too afraid to upset their colonial overlords.

^ And like Iraq, etc, the corporate media is providing the appropriate framing to keep things moving towards war. Here’s the New York Times reporting:

“Breaking News: Iran announced plans to enrich more uranium soon. It would be a violation of the 2015 nuclear deal that the U.S. withdrew from last year.” (link)

The US “withdrew”, but Iran would be in “violation” of a plan that the US…ummm…violated/voided/withdrew from. Good stuff.

In 2015 Iran agreed a long term deal on its nuclear programme with the United States, the UK, France, China, Russia and Germany. On 8 May 2018 Trump announced that the US was withdrawing from the deal despite the fact that Iran had been abiding by its terms.

The US imposed crippling sanctions and is now threatening war with Iran. That is bad enough but it is also bad for hopes of non-proliferation which depended on sticking to agreements and building trust. Countries with nuclear potential, such as North Korea, will see nuclear weapons as their only possible defence against larger nations with a proclivity to bully.

The whole thing stinks. None of the vessels harmed, were US vessels, nor were they carrying US supplies, or goods. None of the countries that owned the vessels, have accused Iran, or asked for US help with the situation.

Iran made public threats about disrupting the shipping traffic, yet the bombings, were relatively covert…

Not much of it makes much sense…

As far as the Iranian civilian population suffering, they should consider revolution, if their government is willing to sacrifice their needs for political reasons. If the US is responsible for framing Iran, our citizens should call for extreme consequences…

They are sponsers of terrorism
Sanctions by multiple parties are hurting their economy

They are doing this to make the Europeans nervous about oil access and thus to break with the president.

I don’t believe it will work

^Well. They wouldn’t have had to “break with the president,” if he hadn’t backed out of the deal…

If I wanted to play conspiracy theorist, I would say that war with Iran was a goal at least dating back to breaking the deal.

My understanding is that sources close to Trump, opine that he is not interested in war with Iran. If that were true, I could still see the multiple motivations that the US would have for helping in, or being complicit in a military conflict between Israel, or Saudi Arabia, and Iran (hard to see Israel and SA being partners in such a conflict, but it serves both of their “interests,” as well.)

@josie Being sponsors of terrorism doesn’t make them stupid. Why would they risk being obliterated by the US? It doesn’t make sense.

@flutherother “Countries with nuclear potential, such as North Korea, will see nuclear weapons as their only possible defense against larger nations with a proclivity to bully.”
And once they (Iran and North Korea) attain nuclear weapons, they, too, can join the bully club!

@SaganRitual Allah is on their side, remember??

@kritiper That’s why non proliferation is so important.

@flutherother Yes, I understand that. It’s a no-brainer…
And a little late to be talking about.

Iran wouldn’t have anything to gain by making a sudden covert attack like that. They’d have no reason to do that. Especially not in that way. So they would not do that. Trying to blame them for it is a sham, and an ongoing effort by the Trump administration to create a pretext to attack Iran.

Here is Tulsi Gabbard saying as much, in an interview which was later pulled by the networks.