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What do you think about Miss. candidate Robert Foster refusing to be alone with female reporters? Over the top or covering his butt?

Asked by chyna (51569points) July 12th, 2019 from iPhone

A female reporter wanted a full day ride-along with Mr. Foster and he refused without a male accompanying them. Do you think he’s being over cautious or is he doing the right thing to keep away from fake news or even actually any lies that could be told?

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elbanditoroso's avatar

Misogynistic snowflake.

Is he so not in control of himself, and is he so untrustworthy personally, that he doesn’t trust himself to behave with a woman in the car?

This is another example of the far religious right demeaning women and devaluing them. It’s that simple.

At a point when Saudi Arabia is loosening up the restrictions on women, we have this bozo who wants to belittle them.

Demosthenes's avatar

I think in the age of “believe the woman”, it might be a good idea for men and women to stay separate from each other in situations like this. It’s a sad state of affairs, but I understand why some might be paranoid about false accusations. As for the actual principle that men should stay away from a one-on-one with a woman (regardless of their fear of false accusations), I find it to be terribly medieval (it’s standard practice in some Islamic societies) and absurd.

KNOWITALL's avatar

I think it’s actually smart and self-protecting. Both sides of the aisle have been accused of being predatory, time to smarten up and make sure you aren’t put in those positions. Not an unreasonable request imo, especially in his personal vehicle.

nerdgirl578's avatar

I don’t know how to feel about it really, but something is clearly fucked up somewhere if this is something people actually do (feeling the need to avoid being alone with women because of fear of accusations I mean).

jca2's avatar

I don’t blame him for not wanting to ride alone all day with a woman, so there are no accusations of any kind. If I were running for office, I’d rather safe than sorry. If you know politics, you know that the other side is often looking to get you.

However, I would say instead of having another man, why not have another woman? Rather than having two men in the car with the solo lady, why not have two ladies plus the politician? I don’t see why the gender of the third person should matter.

kritiper's avatar

With so many women showing off vast amounts of cleavage, he’s probably afraid he’ll get caught looking.

mazingerz88's avatar

Is he a religious conservative like Pence thinking it’s improper no matter what or paranoid of being falsely accused of pussy grabbing? Republicans don’t seem to mind voting for pussy grabbers so why worry?

KNOWITALL's avatar

@mazingerz88 Foster’s concern is that there have been instances where a man accused of inappropriate behavior while alone with a woman cannot defend himself effectively because there were no witnesses -wiki

@All It is also an unspoken southern rule. We had/have male friends stop by that refused to set one foot in the house if my husband was not home, and they know us very well. They literally would stay on the front porch for the few minutes it took to see when he’d be back and then left. It’s a propriety thing, possibly religious (Billy Graham), but it’s pretty common here.

tinyfaery's avatar

If he has these opinions (which are fucking stupid), he should get the chaperone and not put the onus on every single woman. The way he wants to do it is discriminatory towards women, and prevents them from doing the work they are trained and paid for.

This is just a classic example of men/religion blaming women for men being unable to control themselves.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@tinyfaery And he shouldn’t have his career and family destroyed if she chooses to get her five minutes of fame ruining him. Unfortunately that’s the point we’re at in society.

jca2's avatar

Actually, a better way for him to do it would be to allow her to invite another person of her choice, and he can invite another person of his choice. So there would be four of them, doesn’t matter the gender, and they would all have their person there.

tinyfaery's avatar

Funny how we are more worried about men then we are about the victims, especially when the percentage a false allegations of sexual assault are so, so, so low. But whatever.

Link

Also, this dude said it is not about respecting his wife and the “Billy Graham Rule”, not about potentially being accused of assault. His tweet.

si3tech's avatar

In our suit-happy sexual molestation accusation prevalent society/world I think its brilliant! Good for them.

LadyMarissa's avatar

My dad wouldn’t allow my niece to sit on his lap because he feared what someone else might think they were seeing. He said it didn’t matter what thoughts “he” was having…it’s the thoughts the “other person” was having that could create problems. He chose safe over sorry because he wasn’t willing to take a chance!!!

tinyfaery's avatar

Oops. Is about respecting his wife.

nerdgirl578's avatar

@LadyMarissa That’s sad… Why would anyone think anything at all? As a young child I loved to sit on my uncle’s lap! If he was reluctant to it I’d probably thought there was something wrong with me.

LadyMarissa's avatar

I found it extremely sad but I couldn’t reason with him. He died without ever hugging her & now she has NO fond memories of her granddad!!!

nerdgirl578's avatar

That’s just screwed up. Of course you have to be able to be affectionate towards children?

KNOWITALL's avatar

@LadyMarissa The more PC the world gets, the more behavior modification will occur. Toxic.

rebbel's avatar

I feel it is a slap in the face of the female reporter.
“Sorry, can’t trust you, you are a female, and there might possibly have been samples of your sex that have been falsely accusing samples of my sex of indecent behavior…, can’t be too careful…”
“By the way, persons of my sex never do such things that I think you might possibly accuse me of…...”

Dutchess_lll's avatar

I think it means he can’t be trusted to keep his hands off these women who are constantly just asking for it.

kritiper's avatar

It sounds to me like the guy had a severe guilt complex and was forward thinking enough to want to head off any potential problems before they might become problems. And there’s nothing wrong with that.
“Judge not lest ye be judged.”
“When you assume you make an “ass” out of “u” and “me.”
Never assume anything!

Dutchess_lll's avatar

Wow. Flo asked a question that suggested he said some women dress and wear make up that make it plain they’re after more than just doing their job. Have yet to verify it tho. If true then I nailed it!

kritiper's avatar

I must agree with what he said, if indeed that’s what he said.
Now if he said “all women,” then I would have a problem with that.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

But he is applying whatever lable to ALL women.
Women just dress how they dress. Unless they’re onviously a prostitute, if they look nice, men assume they’re dressing to turn them on, whether they are or not. Again, blaming women for men’s wild imagination.

kritiper's avatar

I doubt he was applying it to all women despite what you think he said.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

He SAID he doesn’t want to be alone with a female reporter. Is there something more dangerous about female reporters than other kinds of females?

LadyMarissa's avatar

When I worked on Capitol Hill in the late 60’s/early 70’s, the politicians didn’t allow themselves to be alone with interns or the young people working for themselves or other offices. My Senator was going through a slow work time & I was loaned out to help another’s Senators office for the day. I had walked over in the morning & by time the work day was over, it was almost dark. The Senator asked me if I wanted a ride back over to my original office & I gladly accepted. He & one of his aides walked me down to the front door of the building where his car pulled up. His chauffeur got out & opened the door. I hesitated out of respect for the Senator & I didn’t want to disrespect him. He said, “Go ahead, I’ll be over later.” He had his driver take me back to my office & then come back to pick him up to bring him over for his meeting. I was confused & asked my co-worker the next day if I had done something wrong. She laughed & explained that this particular Senator would NEVER be alone with a young person because he didn’t want anyone to misconstrue his intentions nor his actions. This particular Senator was an extremely handsome silver fox & a lot of young girls fantasized about him although he was very married. I bet Bill Clinton wished that he’d been half as smart!!!

The same Senators who wouldn’t be alone with the youngsters each had a hooker on the payroll to take care of their carnal needs. They were paid well & signed an NDA & they held up their end of the bargain!!! I always wondered IF the same paranoid Senator had a hooker in his pocket???

Dutchess_lll's avatar

Lewinski wasn’t a youngster. He didn’t take unfair advantage of her. She was an adult and went into it knowingly and willingly.
These reporters he is so scared to be alone with are not children either. They’re adults.

kritiper's avatar

^^^You’re assuming there’s danger of some sort involved.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

HE feels there is some sort of danger involved in being alone with a female reporter, so HE wants a bodyguard at all times.
Did you lose the gist of the story?

kritiper's avatar

I think you assume too much.

KNOWITALL's avatar

The danger is her falsifying any accusations and throwing a freshman political career in the toilet. To me its a valid concern. Even the appearance of impropriety is what he’s avoiding. Frankly i find her lack of acceptance a form of bullying. I’m certainly not meeting alone with male constituents alone unless its a public place, thats common sense politics 101.

LadyMarissa's avatar

When I don’t feel completely comfortable in any situation, I take a step back & remove myself from the situation. This has worked well for me many times. People now days look for any reason to be offended even when what was said wasn’t offensive. Maybe Foster has no reason to be fearful of this reporter; however, as long as his gut is telling him there might be a problem, I think he’s wise to take his step back & remove himself from the situation. If the reporter was feeling uncomfortable about meeting alone with him & requested to take a co-worker along with her, she’d be called a smart cookie!!!

rebbel's avatar

Good luck to him in his political career.
Let’s hope he doesn’t ever have to do one on one negotiations with a female leader of the opposite sex.
Or be alone at home when a female house painter comes to redo his veranda.
Or that he needs a procedure done at the dentist, by a female professional.
Or a therapy session with a female shrink.

Boohoofuckingboo.

LadyMarissa's avatar

Not feeling comfortable with one female does not mean he is banning every woman he comes across. I wouldn’t go to a shrink that I couldn’t give my complete trust. I don’t go to doctors that make me feel uncomfortable…At least not more than once. Most times I have a worker coming to my home to do a project, I have a friend visit until I can see if I can trust them. Women have been doing this for years & it was called self preservation. Maybe she’s so freaking hot that he wants to jump her bones but he’s smart enough to know that would be a HUGE mistake & he won’t give in to his passions. Whatever the reason, he doesn’t want to be alone with her & I feel he has the same right as she would have IF she felt uncomfortable being alone with him. Many politicians have a body guard with them throughout their day. This guy was just honest enough to say he wanted his body guard to be there with this specific person.

jca2's avatar

This is no different than the gynecologist having another person in the room, so there are no false accusations made.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@jca2 Exactly right. And now it’s policy.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

He didn’t specify ONE particular female.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

@jca2… after my female nurse practioner listened to my lungs and heart with a stethoscope, through my shirt, I told her that until about 10 years ago I thought they HAD to do that stuff on my bare skin and that it was important to lift my breast to listen to the section of chest under it.
I also thought physical breast exams was totally a standard part of any doctor’s vist….
She said “Nah. They just wanted to see your titties.”
So play me a violin for that stupid politician.

jca2's avatar

@Dutchess_lll: I don’t blame the politician one bit. Better safe than sorry.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

I bet he has a rep of not being able to keep hands to himself so he wants some self control to ride along.

mazingerz88's avatar

WTF seriously. The female is a freakin reporter. And what, a psychic who could maybe read his potentially lascivious thoughts?

He sure thinks there’s a chance she’ll cry pussy grabber. Why is that? Why does he think that way?

mazingerz88's avatar

Would he not talk to a female President of any country alone too?

What about a female housekeeper? A female cop? What makes a female reporter different?

KNOWITALL's avatar

@mazingerz88 Kavanaugh, Stormy Daniels-ring any bells? haha

I think it’s funny it bothers you guys so much, actually.

mazingerz88's avatar

^^He’s pretty insulting to women.

jca2's avatar

Think about it. He’s getting thousands or millions of dollars in donations for his election. Thousands of people are counting on him. On the other hand, his opponents may resort to any tactic to ruin his reputation. So therefore, if I were him, I’d be careful too.

*Note: I haven’t googled the specific politician. I’m just referring to politicians in general, from what I know about politics and how dirty political races can get.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@mazingerz88 Who Foster? Really? He specifically said it was agreement between he and his wife, seems pretty respectful to me.

Also he did not refuse the reporter an interview, he just set boundaries.

jca2's avatar

I think a full day ride-along is a bit different than just an interview, @mazingerz88..

Dutchess_lll's avatar

Leave it to a privileged white male to jump on the coat tails of the #MeToo movement. Poor widdle boy.

mazingerz88's avatar

But what is he telling to young girls out there? To his daughter if he has one? Yes, you can go to school to learn things, all the way even to college, get a degree, be a pro but wait though, hold your panties because despite all your hard work, men couldn’t and shouldn’t trust you because you could be as evil as men sometimes do, especially when you’re alone in a car or in a hotel lobby or hallway with the opposite sex.

Yes, you’re my daughter but you’re now a fully grown woman and so you could just turn into a cheap slut anytime you feel like it! Heh.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@mazingerz88 Or there are good and bad people of both sexes perhaps? And we don’t give them the power to destroy our lives or careers? It’s common sense.

mazingerz88's avatar

^^Give them the power to destroy? Seriously? Is that how sane, responsible and reasonable human beings think?

rebbel's avatar

The fear mongering is starting to be successful.
Fear over trust….

Dutchess_lll's avatar

He just managed to insult 50% of the people who will be voting next year. Eat to go dumbass.

mazingerz88's avatar

Let’s not forget it’s also an attack on the press.

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