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Do you know anyone who could be described as a man's man?

Asked by lucillelucillelucille (34325points) October 13th, 2019

What is this person like?

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MrGrimm888's avatar

A “man’s man.” Is someone who does what society needs him to do. Fight wars, stick up for his family/tribe. And when necessary, give his life, to produce these results.

A “man” will protect his community, and understand that his life, will be in jeopardy. He will put his safety in hazzard, when the situation calls for it.

A man’s purpose, is to keep his species life, above his own. This, is an evolutionary trait, in most men’s role, in any species. He is desposable. He is to do the hardest work, and if need be, sacrifice his life for the better of his species.

I suppose, that this means he is to do the worst things necessary for the survival of the women and children. That could be committing murder, or going down with the ship..

It’s basically, about sacrifice…

Sacrifice of their bodies. Sacrifice of thier lives, if called for.

Otherwise, you are a coward. Not a “man’s man.” And should be erased from the genome…

I have put myself in harms way, hundreds of times. Often, to protect a female. I consider myself a “man’s man” I was a bouncer/LEO for many years. I put myself between other men, sometimes a dozen, and held my own. I have been stabbed, shot at, kicked, punched, had bottles broken on me, and everything else you can think of.

I’ve walked away from all of it. I’ve hurt some people very badly. I’m NOT proud of that. But. I had to do, what I had to do. I took anatomy, and physiology, in college. So. Coupling that, with my training, I can/have seriously hurt someone, on multiple occasions. I hate it. I hate myself for it…. But it is my gift, and my curse….

I often wish that I weren’t born… But. I have no control over that.

I think a real man, should be able to talk his way out of violence. And I was good at that. But. Occasionally, I had no choice.

A “man’s man,” struggles with the damage he’s inflicted on others, but knows there was no other option…..

I have retired from law enforcement. I didn’t like what I sometimes had to do. I… resent who I was…. I don’t want to be “him” anymore…

I still get into situations, that call “him” out, but I mostly don’t do those things anymore.

A “man’s man, ” is a tool. We aren’t necessarily needed, in society, anymore…..

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@MrGrimm888 – Thank you for your answer.

MrGrimm888's avatar

LLL. It’s nothing I’m proud of. Like I said, it’s a curse. I hate myself, for the things that I have done to other men . I am not a violent person. But. I’ve admittedly, hurt people. Badly. I have nightmares, where I relive hurting them. I was born in the wrong century… I am genetically made, to hurt people… It may be hard to understand, but I hate myself, for what I’ve done…. I hate what I’ve done. I wish I was just an average person. No one wants to hire me, unless it’s for doorman, or worse. If I didn’t have my Mom’s heart, I wouldn’t care. But I don’t like hurting people, even if they deserve it.

I wish I was never born….

KNOWITALL's avatar

A mans man likes hunting, fishing, women, beer, trucks-fast cars, is muscular, works hard, loves his family, etc..

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@MrGrimm888 – My dad was a Korean War veteran in the Marine Corp. He did not talk much about his experience there but the one time he did to me, it was in very general terms.
I get why.
I didn’t know about PTSD as a little girl but I learned a bit after he died. He went through a lot.
He was however, able to have a good life in spite of those experiences
He got into a trade after being discharged (toolmaker) saved $,then invested in real estate. He did well in that regard.
He also seemed to be pretty happy in spite of his experiences.
I think he’d tell you to not dwell on your mistakes.

Stache's avatar

Yes, I know guys with toxic masculinity traits. I prefer to not hang with them.

ragingloli's avatar

Massive beer gut, hair all over, rotten breath, takes a bath every two weeks in twice used bath water, stained wife beater shirt, lives in a 30 year old trailer, fridge filled with beer, watches fox news all day, hates them gays, fantasises about killing dem libruls, beats his wife who is also his cousin, sleeps with a shotgun under his pillow, brags about being a veteran after being a reservist the whole time, only wipes his arse once, and smells his fingers every time he scratches his bumhole.
Thinks of himself as a real man.

MrGrimm888's avatar

@Stache . If you’re talking about me, you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. With all due respect. I had to things, that make me a bad person. I’m happy you haven’t had to do it. You DON’T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT. I’m deeply, emotionally offended by what I had to do, and YOU have no right to attack me. I wish you nothing but peace, and goodwill. I’m sorry that you lack the sensibility, to understand my posts . I feel like just a big bag of shit, that you describe me as…
Thanks…I’m.sure you’re perfect, in your world…

Stache's avatar

Um, I was talking about the term the OP used. My response had nothing to do with you. Chill, bro. I like you.

canidmajor's avatar

I saw no indication that @Stache was talking about you, @MrGrimm888, his response to the OP was very similar to what I would have said after reading the Q, without anything to do with you.
You’re only going to heighten your already high anxiety levels by assuming attacks where none exist.

MrGrimm888's avatar

Apologies all around . I clearly misjudged the responses…..

I’m sorry.

ucme's avatar

Each to their own of course, but to me it’s an incredibly outdated term. Brings to mind blokes who thrive on a reputation of macho sexist bullshit, y’know, the type who measure their erect cock with a dirty old tape measure in the hope it stays hard long enough to get a reading XD

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

Aaron Cleary. You can check his YouTube video channel called the asshole consultant. Has swears and adult content .

Stache's avatar

It’s all good @Grimm. Sorry to hear you are struggling.

Inspired_2write's avatar

19 CHARACTERISTICS OF A MAN’S MAN – Average 2 Alpha

https://average2alpha.com › Stoic › Manliness

Dec 19, 2017 – What it means to be a man? In this post are 19 characteristics of a man’s man. These characteristics make up the personality of a real man.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

@Inspired_2write Your link doesn’t work for me.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@ragingloli _You’ve described a pig.
@Stache – Do you find these traits toxic?: https://average2alpha.com/what-it-means-to-be-a-man/
@RedDeerGuy-Based on the title of your link, I’ll pass Lol!
@Inspired_2write-It didn’t work for me either
@ucme- I don’t equate that term with blustering machismo, but do find these answers interesting.:)

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

John Wayne. Famous Western actor.

Stache's avatar

@lucielle I find the term outdated and the idea of gender norms harmful.

Nick Offerman explains it well. https://www.bustle.com/p/nick-offerman-debunks-both-the-idea-that-hes-a-mans-man-the-outdated-concept-as-a-whole-2965118

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Stache – I can understand your thoughts on that as I do things that are not typically thought of as a feminine pursuit.
Do I care if anyone has a problem with that? Not really.
Have I ever encountered outdated attitudes about what a woman can or can’t do? I certainly have.
I personally can’t recall being stopped from pursuing any interests because of their problem but when I’ve beat them at something, they’ve often developed another problem. Lol!
As for the traits listed in the link. I find them very attractive in anyone.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

A guy I went to high school with earned that title. He was about 6’ 5”, tremendous athlete, very muscular and good looking to boot. None of the guys had a problem confessing to a “bromance” concerning him.

josie's avatar

^
Yes
He is, give or take, 6 and half feet tall, around 210 pounds, a good athlete, a veteran, skilled in martial arts and modern weaponry, educated, an affinity towards the arts, and an attraction to women from North Africa.
Even tempered.
Reasonably modest

josie's avatar

A mediocre golfer

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@josie – ...that is not afraid to admit that he could improve his game in a huge way by keeping the club head low & slow on the back swing.

josie's avatar

Many of life’s mysteries are mysterious because they are hidden, out of our line of sight, in the backswing

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@josie -That’s is not a mystery.It is the secret to happiness on the links.(for everybody but your opponents)
No need to thank me for this.:)

josie's avatar

Thanks anyway

Dutchess_lll's avatar

At my most recent class reunion Duane and another classmate (female) hung out with Rick and me iterally all night long. Finally turned in about 6 am.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@josie -So that is not the road to improvement for you?

josie's avatar

I’ll definitely work on it

josie's avatar

And get back to you

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@josie One more thing if you have a swing like John Daly, don’t do that.Ever again.I mean it this time.
Bringing the club head that far around is not a good thing-unless you are him.

raum's avatar

Someone that other guys aspire to be like and be friends with. Along more stereotypical gender norms. Your non-average, average dude.

raum's avatar

Just gonna leave this right here

MrGrimm888's avatar

At least men, are predictable…

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