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Was Trump's sellout of the Kurds a huge gift to Russia? Is this another example of Trump kissing Putin's posterior?

Asked by elbanditoroso (33589points) October 14th, 2019

Who gains when Turkey starts killing Kurds because the US left Northern Syria?

Russia, of course. Because Assad (backed by Russia) has gained more power and has coopted the Kurds all in a single week.

Did Trump do this as a favor to his Moscow buddy?

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SEKA's avatar

That’s the way I see it. I’m wondering how much money Putin in dangling in front of him?

LuckyGuy's avatar

It sure seems that way. He might have listened to one of his favorite “news” shows and was swayed by a superficial argument .
There were ~10,000 ISIS prisoners held in that territory. Most of them will now escape – and you can be sure they will not be friends of the US.

mazingerz88's avatar

A reality TV show host conniving with Putin so Russia could hold sway over that part of the world instead of the US. That’s what trump fanatics want. Along with those Americans who want the US to stop “policing the world.”

SEKA's avatar

“Policing the world” has its advantages

mazingerz88's avatar

I’m for the US policing the world. Smartly.

johnpowell's avatar

It is politically toxic here. Even the Republicans are not happy about it. And they go along with nearly everything.

So pretty much everyone in the United States thinks it is really bad. But he did it anyway. Why? It isn’t good for the country. But it is good for Putin, and it is good for Trump since he has some towers in Turkey.

mazingerz88's avatar

Remember that time years ago when Republicans loved attacking Dems for being weak on security and national defense? LOL

trump has the perfect cover for this betrayal by Uncle Sam of the Kurds. No more wars for the US etc. ( ignore the fact he’s in it for the trump business brand )

LostInParadise's avatar

Isn’t Syria, and by extension Russia, hurt by having all those ISIS troops being freed?

mazingerz88's avatar

Would any ISIS fool go to Russia to do terrorism? Maybe but I don’t think so. By extension why would Russia really care if Syrians are killed by ISIS? There is something else going on here bigger than we can understand clearly right now.

LostInParadise's avatar

I guess the Russians figure they can handle ISIS. Russia and Iran will increase their influence in the region. The Kurds are so desperate that they are asking Russia for help to keep the Turkish army from mowing them down. Their chances now of a future state are not looking too good.

zenvelo's avatar

Even the most Pro Trump Senators are saying it was a gift to Russia. There is no need for this as a question.

LostInParadise's avatar

To play devil’s advocate, what difference does any of this make? The Kurds were only allies of convenience, because we both fought against ISIS. Syria is an ally of Iran, who the U.S. is opposing, so there is no chance of the U.S. and Syria being allies. What can we possibly gain by staying in Syria? How does leaving hurt us?

mazingerz88's avatar

The US went in for humanitarian reasons and
wanted to help anti-dictatorial forces against Assad’s regime? But when Russia joined the fray supporting Assad and baiting the US into a war, Obama didn’t bite.

LostInParadise's avatar

Let’s be real. There are dictatorships all over the world. Those in the Middle East are of interest because they sit on a whole bunch of oil.

mazingerz88's avatar

It’s also real some Americans want to help pro-democracy groups.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

I think Trump’s long term plans include opening Trump Towers in Ankara, Turkey. (no conflict of interest there HAR HAR HAR)

^^^The USA of BOZO !^^^

stanleybmanly's avatar

So once again, did Putin get his money’s worth?

SEKA's avatar

The stable genius has decided to send troops back in as well as impose sanctions. Sanction hurt no one except the general popuation

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AlsoWeirdedOut's avatar

“To play devil’s advocate, what difference does any of this make? The Kurds were only allies of convenience, because we both fought against ISIS. Syria is an ally of Iran, who the U.S. is opposing, so there is no chance of the U.S. and Syria being allies. What can we possibly gain by staying in Syria? How does leaving hurt us?”

The Kurds were allies in the fight against Al Queda, they’ve helped us in Iraq during both of those wars, going back decades. They’ve been our fiercest allies and partners fighting some of the worst baddies in Iraq, Syria.

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