Okay let get this straight Trump is going to withold Federal funding because which of these reasons: 1) The Governor is a Democrat 2) The state of California is suing Trump for returning to California "Clean Act" 3) Not _Quid pro quo _?

Trump will never carry California.
Withholding money from California gets press away from impeachment proceedings.

Well, it is fact that JB did veto a significant bill in 2016 which would have required the California Public Utilities Commission to prioritize areas at increased risk from overhead wires in their management of wildfires. The most recent fires were due to sparks from electrical wires setting off dried brush under them. Not too hard to connect the dots. Cali expecting federal funds for an entirely avoidable problem is a big problem for taxpayers that do not live in Cali hence all the political tripe flinging around.

All of the above. trump also closed a detention center in Florida which might not have happened if John Kelly who criticized trump had no connection to that detention center at all.

1, 2, AND 3. What a better way to distract the general population than to give them something different about which to speak? If it has to benjust one answer, I’d say #3 as according to the White House, he does it all the time and we need to learn to get over it!

From reading it seems to me that California has refused to take steps to help prevent and mitigate damage caused by wildfires. Even PG&E is unable to maintain a decent cleared ROW for their outside plant. And everyone is mad because they are cutting power. Good for them.

I don’t think there should’ve been any federal aid following Hurricane Katrina. After all, they should’ve built the levees better, so it was an avoidable problem. That’s how it works, right?

The levees are built and maintained by THE ARMY CORP OF ENGINEERS !

Not New Orleans
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I saw a report that says he is offering to help Putin with the forest fires in Siberia

@Tropical_Willie Not really my point. I’m saying that this classification of “avoidable problem” is troubling when it comes to disasters. Yes, human-caused wildfires aren’t “natural disasters” and there’s much that California needs to change. But this denial of aid seems more like Trumpian spite than a genuine desire to see California take action to prevent wildfires.

Comparing to the levee breeches is loose at best. They were built and maintained to withstand what was expected to be beyond any future storm.
What they failed to hold back exceeded what any predictions could have anticipated.

California, on the other hand, faces fire season with a great deal of apathy until the inevitable happens. There is not nearly the proactive energy that should be in place.
I think some funding might be available if any plans for preventative measures worthy of attention would materialize.
Having lived on both coasts and multiple locations between, I have had opportunity to observe the attitudes of many Californians. Most are basically oblivious to a whole continent existing east of the Sierras. Worse, they are so in the moment they do little to protect themselves in ways they can, as if everything were as unpredictable as earthquakes.
This is not everyone, but it is a vast majority.
California needs its citizens to vote it’s issues, fact check their own political process, and quit telling the rest of the country how wrong they are. Is it any wonder stars feel they stand a great chance as politicians when so many people will vote for a pretty smile and baby kissers?

Plan ahead, and put in office those who will act on preventive measures, with funding and manpower.

Feeling singled out? California put itself in that position, by making it clear they feel autonomous, and without desire to associate themselves with the rest of the country.
Life, the world are not scripted. We have to face things which are not pretty. When California gets that, and falls in step, then maybe they can feel the pride and reassurance the rest of us get from our decisions.

I’m not so sure this is anything new. People certainly accused Bush of giving Florida lots of extra money during the aftermath of hurricanes when his brother was governor.

I think the fed should help states with their infrastructure and natural disasters to some extent. We are a UNITED states, and we enjoy crossing from state to state, and our military personnel enlist from all states, and we need commerce between states, and we are all Americans! Each state needs to be responsible for itself to, it can’t completely rely on the fed.

@Patty_Melt I disagree about not knowing what could happen with a level 4 or 5 hurricane in NOLA. We have plenty of experience with strong hurricanes in our history, we know the city is below sea level, we know the Gulf coast is at risk. I vaguely remember after Hurricane Katrina people commenting that engineers had been warning for years, but I don’t know if I’m confusing that with something else.

It seems very unfair to blame the state governor when drier, warmer conditions are leading to vegetation drying out and becoming more flammable. You can’t blame the governor’s “terrible forest management” when several major wildfires have burned in unforested areas and when more than half California’s forests are managed by federal agencies such as the National Park Service and the US Forest Service. At times when America should come together for the good of all to resolve problems Trump just causes more bitterness and division.

@Patty_Melt One of my close friends from college moved to Texas several years ago and he says that he finds the same kind of “autonomous” attitude there; no state exists but for Texas and they see California as a place of crazy leftists and they wouldn’t mind if it were hit with a nuclear missile (specific quote from one friend during the confrontation with North Korea). But of course we don’t talk about the places in Texas that flood repeatedly yet people continue to build homes there. States like Florida have encouraged building developments in areas they know are prone to flooding because they expect the federal government (i.e. all non-flooding states) to bail them out if something goes wrong. Nonetheless, the attitude you perceive in Californians has no bearing on whether aid should or shouldn’t be provided. There are arrogant people everywhere and America is increasingly becoming a place where people don’t perceive others (in any way) outside of their political bubble.

I agree that if states can do more to prevent the effects of disasters through legislation, they should. In this case, most of what should be done involves long-needed improvements to the power infrastructure. Those railing about “forests” often don’t seem to know what they’re talking about, as @flutherother points out. There’s no logging done in treeless chaparral, which frequently burns in SoCal.

I think this will be an increasingly relevant topic (not just re. California’s wildfires) as more and more Americans live in the wrong place. These burn and flood-prone environments were already fragile and they cannot take limitless human expansion. The Tubbs Fire in 2017 burned an area that had previously burned in the 1960s, the difference being that far fewer people lived in that area then. But as I’ve said before: good luck telling Americans they can’t build where they want to.

Sanctuary status which is against our constitution, against laws of immigration, costing taxpayers billions and turning our country into third world status.

@Tropical_Willie New Orleans has to pay the Corp of Engineers. In Florida if I want to build a new dock, the Army Corp of Engineers has to approve it. Same for bridges. States and cities and people have to pay the corp for their services.

I agree with you about Katrina. @Demosthenes New Orleans had the money to repair levees and they chose to build a casino. Der ain’t no politics like Luziana politics. Then tax money rebuilt the city, again where a city should not be….and the levees are supposedly repaired and reinforced. $114 Billion federal tax dollars went to Katrina relief. I have friends there and they have all moved outside the danger zone. Two of them had a total loss and the others had minimal damage. And people whine about the response after Katrina.

Speaking of Katrina, there was some little boy they were calling a hero. I don’t remember why. His last name was, coincidentally, Love. Anybody remember that? Or know any follow up?