Do you ever think that, in science, some things should never be created, that they exist for theoretical purposes only?

A black hole. Should never be created. Lest it destroy the Earth.

No matter how bad anything could be, mankind will create it just to show (and know) that it can be done.

Saying “things should never be created” is basically closing down scientific inquiry and limiting man’s potential to be creative. Taken to its logical conclusion, it leads to stagnancy and ultimately to the decrepitude of civilization.

We should never say never to expanding knowledge.

I don’t have problems with controlling, limiting, or regulating what is invented, but to disallow human creativity is not the solution,

@luigirovatti

What’s wrong with hypercubes?

@RedDeerGuy1

No worries there.

@Darth_Algar: Watch “Hypercube” (2002) and you’ll see what I mean.

@elbanditoroso: So, in the name of knowledge, we should conduct experiments about torture, for example (pardon the topic)?

Yes. Of course, if for no other reason to be aware of what other people can do to us, and defend against it.

@elbanditoroso: Even if it’s not unethical, and that’s a BIG if, isn’t that illegal?

@luigirovatti

whose ethics? You can I have different ethical backgrounds.

and illegal? Your government, and mine, do lots of illegal things.

@elbanditoroso: Anyway, if the people found out there were secret experiments conducted by the “shadow government” (I am using this as an idea to get you to the point at heart, no offense), there would be manifestations, demonstrations, riots, some people would seriously get hurt and the government would be forced to resign. It wouldn’t work anyway.

Problems of this type may eventually show up related to AI. If we could ever create robots with consciousness, should we do it?

@luigirovatti who are you kidding? There are all sorts of secret things going on by the US government every day, and they jail people who talk.

People wouldn’t riot, a lot of people would accept it.

I think you are an idealist and not living in the world of reality.

@elbanditoroso: And I think you are a realist, living in a world of too much facts to make up your own damn mind about things with your own ideas. Why don’t you examine whistleblowers like Snowden or Assange, for a change?

@luigirovatti funny you say that – I just read the Snowden book this past weekend. It was fascinating, although incomplete.

And it is in the Snowden book that you have evidence that the US is doing lots of unethical and illegal things.

Have you read the Snowden book?

@elbanditoroso: No (too little time), but I watched some of his interviews.

@luigirovatti

Ah, so your question is grounded purely in outlandish entertainment? Got it.

@Darth_Algar: Don’t be silly, I could mention the risk of the Large Hadron Collider creating a black hole, (to cite @RedDeerGuy1), or the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, or the OGM, or, for that matter, the Nazi experiments in the concentration camps.

@luigirovatti

Two of those things have nothing to do with creating black holes, which is what I was responding to. Why you choose to bring them up in that context is anyone’s guess, but it’s awfully close to the typical deflection tactics many people employ when they can’t, or don’t want to, address a subject directly.

And yes, there is a speculative theory that the LHC could produce microscopic black holes that dissipate in a fraction of a second. No worries about these these theoretical black holes destroying the Earth.

@Darth_Algar: Strictly speaking, they are science projects which must exist for theoretical purposes only.

Well despite what Hollywood movies might tell you a hypercube is a thing that actually exists. However the reality is much more mundane than all of that.