Unless removed from office, do you really think Trump can win in 2020?
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Regardless of your feelings ,do you think Trump could actually pull off a win in 2020?
Is his base that strong still?
Hasn’t he done enough damage now?
Countless lies, no coal jobs returning, no real health care deal for the lower classes, and a Tariff war that is going to end up hurting everyone including the states.
Stable Genius for 2020, this time we will crush the lower classes.
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No. All this talk about him getting re-elected is imo borne out of unwarranted negativity. And probably depression and state of shock. Lol
There is zero chance he’ll win those same pivotal three states again by a mere 80K votes.
I don’t think he’s got a snowball’s chance in hell. But I said that last time, too.
There is a very strong negative element of Trump Derangement Hysteria from a portion of the political left which has been a very negative and pervasive fabric of American life and culture the past three years.
The States are better off in every measurable way over the past three years, in spite of resistance, obstruction by the democrats, and predictions of the opposite. The Democrats have done absolutely nothing for the country since Trump has taken office. Nothing but obstruct and subpoena in a coup attempt to remove the president. Its not really going to be possible for the prove anything different in the next 11 months.
The Democrats do not have a strong or credible candidate, and Trump has proven to be a very strong candidate with a strong base. There is nothing to suggest your hypothesis is anything other than delusional thinking,
@Yellowdog Didn’t the Democrats Congress declare that pizza was a health food? This or a recent cycle? Edited
Yes he will win and if the DNC does not get it’s act together fast it will be a landslide
@Yellowdog What hypothesis, I pointed out the way I see him, and asked if he really has a chance at winning in 20202?
The best Fox could do with a witness was point out what a huge water bottle the guy had, really.
For a lot of Trump’s inner circle facing charges,or have been charged, others resigning and you still think he is the best, you have stated several times that you have thought of moving up to Canada, why if the states are doing so great under ole orange hair,if you want a cooler climate why not just move to a Northern state?
The only reason I got caught up in this is his tariffs are screwing up our forest industry big time here in BC.
Trump has a better chance than he did in 2016. If he keeps Michigan, Pennsylvania, And Florida, and if he flips Minnesota, he might get more electoral votes than last time.
The Dems really need to cut the field down to three or four by Christmas, and get a candidate pretty settled by mid March.
The problem is too many @YellowDog’s that will vote for Trump no matter what. They don’t care about any of the damage he has done or the trillion dollar deficit, or lack of standing in the world, they will still vote for Trump.
The term “YellowDogs” as a plural of “Yellowdog” does not have an apostrophe ‘s’ (which shows possession) @zenvelo
See this is exactly what I mean when someone doesn’t like the message they will do anything to discredit it including any kind of spelling error, nice try @Yellowdog but everyone of us knew exactly what @zenvelo was saying.
I didn’t. I thought he meant I owned it!
@Yellowdog your tag did not appear as it usually does, perhaps because it is in a sentence and I am on a tablet.
It was the capital D In it, which is optional.
But I was joking about the apostrophe
Yes. Because so far the Democrats don’t have a credible opponent, who can actually win.
The democrats are doing a liberal circle jerk, instead of concentrating on a candidate who can appeal to the center and not just the far left. They have to get it together, and soon.
The fact that the fool is indeed President is demonstration enough regarding the judgement of the voting public. Were it simply a matter of Trump acquiring the necessary votes, I should be worried. But that concern overlooks the pressing catastrophe assuring the doom of Trump and the party hitched to this country’s ogre without parallel. I’m talking about the innumerable scandals and criminal investigations currently in the pipe. The current impeachment proceedings are but one act in the Trump fairground of disgusting scandals. It is by now more than evident that Trump is the Disney of criminally themed corruption. The breathtaking extent of the dazzling and spectacular “rides” in the months coming up will exceed the imaginations of even the most cynical of his critics. If you want an exercise in futility, try to unravel the myriad of Federeal state and locale jurisdictions currently pursuing investigations into the fool. As it is, there isn’t a chance in hell that Trump will live long enough to address just the tax matters closing in on his slimy ass. The deluge of scandals thus far exhibited are but a peek under the tent regarding what’s to come. That’s right folks—it’s only going to get worse! And in the coming months, as the current impeachment investigation certainly suggests, the accumulating burden of mounting a defense of the intractable dummy must facilitate the assured destruction of the Republican Party. The Republicans are making the unforgivable marketing error. They have a fatally flawed and defective product out there wreaking indelible havoc under the company brand. The longer the delay in recalling the product, the more severe the consequences to the company and the destruction of the brand.
@stanleybmanly half the voters voted for Candidate Trump and over half of those that did including me did so because they were passionate not about trump in the least but very certain the last person they wanted running the country was Hillary. And similarly half the people that voted for hillary was not that she was their choice for president but the only reason is she was not Trump. 2016 was a total hold your nose vote and Trump was the less stinky of the two and won. The dems are once again ignoring the critical block of independent voters like me and their infantile display on this impeachment nonsense is only pushing massive amounts of voter into the anyone one but the hot mess that is the Democratic circus going on right now. The dems are slitting their wrists and with wanton abandon.
Yes. Ya’ll under estimate the charm and honesty factor I think. He knows what not do do, to keep his base happy. He has done some good, too.
Impeachment will decide 2020 imo, its really pissing off the Reps, creating solidarity against Dems.
I wasn’t happy with the choices either, but believe me, the issue with Trump is beyond liberal/ conservative factionalism. My point is that people such as yourself are going to be deprived of the opportunity to vote for the dummy. As it is, the fool’s legal difficulties combined with his staggering ineptitude has rendered his actual governance of the country little more than illusion. It puzzles me that anyone might yet not recognize the magnitude of the catastrophe that is Donald Trump.
Well, the simple fact that the left are doubling down on pretty much everything anyone on the right are strongly opposed to almost guarantees the man will keep his seat in the elliptical business room. Many on the right won’t like it but come polling day they’ll take their chances with Trump. The man despite his faults has largely kept the economy in order, anyone with a brokerage account or 401K can see it. If liberals really want him out run a left leaning fiscal conservative.
No folks. What I am saying is that the legal processes arrayed against the fool will render a second term all but impossible. Have any of you thought for a moment on the number of people in bed with this man who are now on the fast track to prison? The totals are breathtaking and each and every one of them have been removed from the web with him at the center. And each of them are pointing at the fool as they are marched away. The question is no longer whether Trump will have a turn, it’s now about which of the criminal blizzards will finish him first and there are more storms daily.
@Stanley, your rants normally irritate the hell out of me. For some reason, I started to read your posts, and i thought I wanted to kiss you hard on the mouth, and find out if it gets as passionate kissing as it does ranting.
I’m starting to wish for that fluther party to become a reality.
Yes, Trump will win. If for no other reason than one of my friends has three kids who became voting age since 2016, and she has a basket full of siblings who have coming of age kids too.
So far, all I hear from the candidates is how certain they are about being able to beat Trump. I haven’t yet heard one single plan. I haven’t even heard very many wish lists let alone plans for implementation.
No. All you have to do is look at the turnout for the 2018 elections, especially from the younger generation. Some important swing states lost their Republican governors to a Democrat, including Wisconsin. Also, many Dems sat out in 2016 because they didn’t like Hillary. We now have a whole generation of young voters who despise Trump. They will vote for any Democrat.
Trump’s base may be loud but they are not large enough to beat what will be coming for them in 2020. Mark my word.
I’m growing more-and-more convinced that Bernie is the only one who can beat him.
@gorillapaws The media is doing what they did in 2016. They are ignoring him even though he leads or is tied in many poles. He and AOC also drew the largest crowd in Iowa for any candidate and the media ignored it.
Bernie couldn’t beat Trump if he had a cat o nine tails.
I’m impressed he hit the trail while his stitches were still moist. Beyond that he’s got nothing.
@Patty_Melt Authentic populism will defeat fake populism. Bernie is in a unique position to make this case to the people.
Short of being removed from office for impeachment (which requires the Senate to convict), he’ll be re-elected. The Dems don’t have anyone worth a damn for a candidate. Their policies would destroy the country. And the Dems have shown they really don’t care about the country, only hating Trump. This impeachment effort for them is a huge risk. They either win all the marbles or go down in flames.
^^Putin and Erdogan applaud you. Well done.
@Jonsblond One problem with polls…they are basically crap. Remember all the polls when Trump started running for the 2016 election? He had 20+ percent of the Republican support in the primaries and yet polls said he couldn’t beat Hillary in a run off. The polls claimed only Jeb Bush, who could only garner about 2% of Republican support, had a chance of beating Hillary. Then Trump got the nomination and all the polls said that overwhelmingly, Hillary would be elected. They all put that forth as the “results of polls of registered voters” and yet….Trump won. Polls tend to be used to try swaying public opinion…not to present any actual data. My observation of polls (and this is only my observation) is that they are mostly left leaning and try convincing people that the Dems are the best. Typically if a race between a Dem and a Repub is close, the polls will say the Dem has a comfortable lead. If the Repub is actually doing very well, the polls will say that the race is too close to call. Remember the 2000 election between Bush II and Gore? Remember all the fiasco surrounding Florida in that election? Did you happen to notice how all that started? ALL the major media outlets on election night were giving updates and using polls to predict the winners in each state. I noticed on a couple stations that night that when they called Gore as the winner of Florida, at the exact same time the exit results on the ticker tape running along the bottom of the screen showed Bush was up by 15% in Florida. After making the announcement that Gore won FL a couple times, they suddenly came out with a correction and said the race was too close to call. I noticed that similar announcements happened in other states like Michigan that night…the announcers calling Gore the winner and yet the exit polls showed Bush up by double digits.
Polls are not really a reliable thing to base your facts on.
Regardless of what the Dems may or may not have as candidates, THIS is what the Republicans are stuck with The most openly corrupt and crooked politician in the history of the country, replete with a panoply of every KNOWN vice at which you can shake a stick! You want to talk about the risks of impeachment where those vices and shortcomings can be emphasized and highlighted round-the-clock? How about the RISK of Kentucky and Virginia now as blue states? Unbelievable!! The gerrymandered dem-proof district in Pennsylvania—flipped decisively to the donkey. THIS is what lies in wait for conservatives in the coming year & most of them know it! The SS trump is listing heavily and the Republican rats are jumping ship and rushing the lifeboats ahead of the voters. The smarter GOP Senators and Congresspeople are retiring in record numbers as the race is on to discover whether the fool can avoid prison long enough to witness his party’s virtual destruction at the polls. And it’s already better than even money that the fool will not see another November outside a grey rock Federal Prison. He will be impeached—there is little doubt about it. The Senate may not convict him THIS time, but it doesn’t matter. He has already run up so many impeachable offenses around the current proceedings with his big mouth and groveling stupidity, (threatening witnesses, contempt of Congress, denial of due process) that he will never see another day in office when he is not under Congressional subpoena and a combined deluge of punitive judicial mandates. Whatever passes for the fool’s ideology is no longer pertinent as the country coasts along on autopilot, its key Federal positions unmanned as it grows ever more obvious that service under the fool is tantamount to career suicide and a guaranteed trip to prison.
@Patty_Melt @KNOWITALL You both know I’m right. @KNOWITALL CHARM AND HONESTY FACTOR!!!??? See? Right there is why I could not be in a room with you where my hands could reach your throat! Do you actually view Trump as exuding charm and honesty or do you simply slip that sort of stuff into the conversation to trip my switch? I sometimes suspect you & Ms Melt are out to kill me off with a stroke. And you ms melt may have a valid point. I’ll have to think about whether if I were busier sexually, I might not care about Trump. But for now I really would like to understand how either of you can legitimately deem the man defensible.
@stanleybmanly why does it offend you so much that people don’t share your rabid hatred? Why are others not allowed to like things you don’t without you attacking me and actually threatening them? Here’s a clue: Trump won the 2016 election. All your hatred boils down to whining about that fact. Time to move on.
@stanley I’m not trying to upset anyone, but to prepare you for the inevitable. Look how many people said yes.
Please dont stroke out, thats another vote lost lol
@seawulf575 You wouldn’t know the difference between rabid hatred and a Lorna Doon, and of course you are allowed to like whatever you please. You can also claim that a turd is a gold brick, and then be promptly revealed for the fool you are with the characterization of my disagreement as “turd hatred”.
@stanleybmanly as for rabid hatred and others being allowed to like whatever they please, please note that you only caught part of what I said. I suggested that others should be allowed to like things you don’t without you attacking and actually threatening them. Think about that for a second. For merely saying Trump had a “charm and honesty factor”, you stated that if @KNOWITALL was in the same room you would wrap your hands around her throat. You do see the psychological implications of that reaction, right? I call it rabid hatred, but it is likely a sign of Intermittent Explosive Disorder. You probably need to seek help from a qualified professional.
@seawulf People are talking civil war again here. Sigh.
I’m staying clear of the pissing contest & just answering the question.
Trump will retain the Presidency come what may.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the colonial electorate.
For you who think this impeachment thing is just a waste of time by the Dems, Trump is handing it to them by intimidating witnesses sending out threatening tweets about Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch is an Impeachable offence how do you explain that?
And your weak idea about the Ukraine call,they might not have been aware that the aid was being held up, I will even give that to you BUT it was being held up for this favour Trump wanted and that is an impeachable offence.
If he isn’t removed from office I really hope the American people are not stupid enough to re-elect him again, because his Tariff war is going to send us into a world wide recession, then you Rep/cons can brag at how well the economy is doing then.
Fear not @KNOWITALL Your throat remains safe from my predations. You are fortunate in my distraction from your lustrous neck, and we must all be grateful for the psychological insights of our resident inbred hillbilly therapist.
@SQUEEKY2 According to the Dems ANYTHING Trump does is an impeachable offense and why this whole escapade is incapable of proving anything. If Trump sneezed into his hand instead of his elbow, the Dems will cry to impeach him. Sadly the Dems HAVE to do this as they certainly do not have a candidate in the race that has a hope or prayer of beating Trump fairly and squarely.
This is how you explain threatening tweets sent by Trump about the Ambassador???^
Just those damn Dems will impeach him for anything.
Jeez I remember no cost was to great about impeaching a guy about lying about a blow job.
^Lying under oath to a federal grand jury about a blowjob.
Never claimed he was innocent.^
Unlike all the rep/cons claiming Trump is just an innocent victim.
@SQUEEKY2 That is my whole point is so far the Dems have ZERO factual information that would meet a serious qualification of an impeachable offense and if lying to Congress is your benchmark than pretty much every Dem in this process should be impeached with Schiff as first in line. The lies he has told to date are too numerous to keep track of. Plus the Dems have all but abandoned their impeachment inquiry because the sham has been exposed and now they are desperate and trying to pin a bribery on Trump. The dems should just cut the shit show and put up a viable candidate and get real.
Such reasoning presupposes that the fool has not provided the Congress ample grounds for his impeachment and removal. The truth is that the Democrats could bend over backwards to keep the idiot off the impeachment list and it wouldn’t help a lick. The fool will talk himself into prison against any and all impediments. He is just that hopeless. You need only watch to see it. Yesterday the moron threatened a witness in a tweet right in the middle of her testimony. His failure to honor Congressional subpoenas means his torpid ass will surely face impeachment for obstruction of justice.
And still not one Rep/con here will explain Trump’s threatening Tweets against Yovanovitch, wonder why?
That ,that alone is an impeachable offence.
As it stands, the Democrats have more avenues to dethrone the fool than P F Chan can list to cook a duck.
Trump will not be removed from office and he will win in 2020. Last in ? Bernie.
Americans are not going to vote for someone short, boring and unattractive. They want Trump who is tall, charming, handsome and very funny. And he has done great things for America and will continue to do so. Go figure.
Yeah, screwing a porn star while your wife is home pregnant, is both charming and funny.^^
Same as sending threatening tweets about an Ambassador yeah the guy is all class.
@SQUEEKY2 let’s get to the gist of the “threatening” tweets.
Everywhere Marie Yovanovitch went turned bad. She started off in Somalia, how did that go? Then fast forward to Ukraine, where the new Ukrainian President spoke unfavorably about her in my second phone call with him. It is a U.S. President’s absolute right to appoint ambassadors.
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….They call it “serving at the pleasure of the President.” The U.S. now has a very strong and powerful foreign policy, much different than proceeding administrations. It is called, quite simply, America First! With all of that, however, I have done FAR more for Ukraine than O.
How is that threatening? How is ANY of that a threat against Yovanovich? These are the tweets everyone is up in arms about. It is an opinion at best. And here’s the kicker: the Dems want to say this was witness intimidation. She didn’t even know they were out there until Schiff tried making something of it. Schiff is the one that had to show her the tweets while she was testifying. So if there is no reasonable way she would see them on her own, what sort of intimidation is that? No Dem/lib will really address that. All they will do is parrot the liberal talking point…the next of the desperate straws the Dems are grasping at…that Trump was trying to intimidate her and tampering with her testimony. So tell me, @SQUEEKY2, if you were going to intimidate someone, would you do it in a way that person would or wouldn’t know about it?
That tweet is the follow up to the previous tweet promising that “things will happen to to her.” But never mind. The fool is as dependable as clockwork when it comes to providing the Dems with all the ammunition required to sink his tubby ass. I have every confidence in him.
@stanleybmanly Citation please. I have not seen a single thing like that. Oh wait! That’s right…you don’t have to actually support your rants with facts.
@stanleybmanly watch out for spin doctoring. The tweet was not, “things will happen to her. ” That is incorrect. Google it. Very inflammatory.
This is a little blip I got on google about this..
President Trump defended his tweets against former ambassador Marie… as former Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch’s testimony was underway that… Trump said about the hearing today of ex-ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch. ... her “bad news” and saying, “she’s going to go through some things.
That sounds threatening in my book.
He said she was “bad news”!? Well holy fucking shit, that changes everything…..Her life is ruined! Someone get her a therapist and a box of tissues for her issues. ~
Good grief you Rep/cons for being so smart really don’t comprehend all that well ,bad news” and saying, “she’s going to go through some things.<she is going to go through some things is what people are upset about.
What does the orange hair god mean by going to go through some things??
A wood chipper? A blast furnace ?dropped off on a desert island?
Yep, he publicly announced his plans to toss her in a wood chipper. Clearly, you are a genius, you should consider running for President, America needs more people like you.
OMG, let me put it this way Hypothetical only,I am a very powerful person and I get upset at you for something, and I say you are going to go through some things, would you not take it as a threat?
Or at least an intimidation tactic?
@cheebdragon How dare you wish more liberal on the USA! That’s just low. You’re going to go through some things!
@SQUEEKY2 Let’s put this in perspective for a moment, shall we? Here is a person who has no first hand knowledge of anything that went on between Trump and Ukraine. Her sole function in this farce is to give negative opinion of him. Now, let’s say you are that person. You are called up by Dems to give testimony about the POTUS and his actions in Ukraine. What is your response? Do you tell them you don’t know any first hand knowledge of his actions in Ukraine since he canned you? Probably. They tell you they don’t care, they want your opinions. Now you are at a crossroads in your decision making. You know that you are going to go into a public venue and say things that you know Trump isn’t going to like and that is solely your opinion. You know that means that if he is the vengeful type, you could be in for a rough ride later. But damn it, you hate him. You don’t like that he had no confidence in you and fired you. So you have an opportunity to publicly lash out at him.
So you know up front that there is a chance he could retaliate against you in some way. Amazing. Going against a powerful person you could face retaliation. We know that happens all the time. But here’s the kicker, and the part you absolutely refuse to admit: Trump has done nothing to her. Even his tweets haven’t said anything other than he felt she was a bad ambassador.
Let me enlighten you a little too. “Well, she’s going to go through some things.” Know where that comes from…when Trump said it? I’ll give you a hint: It was long before the impeachment inquiry started, before the “whistleblower” complaint, before Yovanovich was even chosen as a witness. It was said on the July 25 phone call between Trump and Zelenskyy. So let me ask…how is that witness tampering when there wasn’t even an inquiry started? And if you call it a threat, again…a threat is when you tell someone you will harm them in some way. This was not said to her and was not expected to ever be aired publicly. And again…she had already been fired by the time that was said and Trump has taken no other action against her. So there is no threat there, there has been no persecution against her….nothing. It is just more of the same old bullshit from the Dems…trying to take stuff out of context, trying to make mountains out of molehills.
Witness after witness. And the defense? “MY client’s rock solid reputation as a lying turd is irrelevant. Never mind the impeccable decades old reputations of innumerable witnesses against my turd of a client, these witnesses don’t know the turd personally! This is clearly a case of turd hatred on the part of liberals out to “smear” my turd!
@stan So you truly believe everything bad about Trump after three years of bs cases and millions of taxpayer funds? Mueller, Stormy
kavanaugh, etc…? Geez.
Epstein didnt kill himself. :D
Is the pedo pizza ring already been mentioned?
3 solid years of appalling corruption and scandal. Everybody working for him winds up disgraced, in jail or with their reputations in tatters. He’s a man you wouldn’t trust alone with your kids & yet you find him “honest & charming”? I swear, folks like you & Aster take my breath away! The man is about as charming as a bout of stomach flu—and you both know it! He is crude, petty, vindictive, functionally illiterate and saddled with a degree of stupidity rivaled only by his buffoon like garish vanity. He is a never ending embarrassment to his country, an affront to basic decency and a scandalous disgrace to his office. He should be kept on a leash and buried in a dungeon somewhere under the Smithsonian just as proof that so grotesque and loathsome a creature might actually exist.
@Stan Innocent until proven guilty. Make a case stick.
Listen, Slick Willie and the Teflon Don were running buddies. Stop thinking its Reps vs Dems instead of we the People vs the Elite. Expand your mind beyond hating one player in a game rigged against us all.
@stanleybmanly yes, 3 solid years of appalling corruption and scandal. It is pitiful. When will the Dems stop acting that way? After all, that is ALL they have done for 3 years is try to find something, or more accurately, manufacture something that they can use against Trump. Time to stop the insanity. Here’s a concept: why don’t Democrats actually get back to trying to help make the country better instead of obsessing over losing the 2016 election? Your whining is pretty consistent with the behavior of the Dems since Nov 4th 2016.
Please give a google link to when Trump said that about the Ambssador @seawulf575 I would like to see it.
Sure I don’t like bright fart, could you tell me this the military aid was in fact being held up, but you point out the Ukraine president didn’t know that at the time of the call so no crime was committed.
Could you state why the aid was being held up?
I can tell you what Trump said. According to his statement, he held up the aid for two reasons. The first was that Ukraine has been notoriously one of the most corrupt countries in the world and Trump wanted to talk to the new president to make sure he wasn’t looking to keep the status quo. The second reason is that he was trying to give other nations, especially in the EU, a chance to help pony up some aid to their neighbor. That is consistent with most of his efforts on foreign policy…stop just being the sugar daddy/policeman to the entire world.
Just a point of comparison, the $1.2B that Biden threatened to hold up basically disappeared when Ukraine got it. Tracking it down is pretty sketchy. That is what Trump was trying to avoid.
If they sew Sanders, Warren, Biden, and Hillary together, maybe there’s a candidate that can beat Trump in 2020
For the current quarter, Trump’s campaign contributions are higher than any Democrats.
Too bad It won’t save him from prison!!
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