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Happiness: Acceptance or absence of suffering?

Asked by lucillelucillelucille (34325points) November 21st, 2019

What do you think?

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Tropical_Willie's avatar

Yes, because it is situational.

Sometimes it one thing another time it is different.

rebbel's avatar

Acceptance of suffering, or absence of suffering?
Or, acceptance, or absence of suffering?

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@rebbel acceptance of all major credit cards

rebbel's avatar

In that case; happiness is priceless.

For me it’s not the absence of suffering.
Suffering is a way of perceiving situations.
As are joyful happenings.
Happiness is when I feel I am.
One with all.

Inspired_2write's avatar

Neither.
Its understanding that helps one to accept unhappiness and to move on.
It is important to understand “why” something happened and therefore create better boundaries to offset the pain reoccurring in another situation.
Understanding is the key to unlocking the pain felt ,and that means understanding everyone involved in the particular situation that is blocking the truth .

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Inspired_2write -Unfortunately, closure & understanding are not always arrived at.

Inspired_2write's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille
Sometimes people are not ready to realize there role that was played in it as well.
It may take a lifetime before some can finally realize what really happened and why and at times it only happens when that person is much older and then reflects on there life more often and thus gain closure.
If one is willing earlier than that it can be achieved with much closure and satisfaction of letting go.

ragingloli's avatar

Absence, acceptance, denial, and ignorance of suffering. All four at once, to varying degrees.

Vignette's avatar

I just don’t see how anyone can live a human life without suffering more than just a little and often. Also pain/suffering for me is a reassuring signal I am alive and I am happy to be alive. So at least for me it is imperative that I accept suffering because I don’t think I could be happy if I wasn’t able to do this. When I think of absence of suffering I think of that heaven where we are restored to a pain and suffering free eternal existence and happily for ever after.

Vignette's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille Thank you mam, may I have another? :D

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Vignette—Step out of the way unless you want to experience happiness on a whole new level

MrGrimm888's avatar

I think introspective thought, is important. You have to consider, that certain situations could have been handled differently.

I suppose, it varies personally. I’m very hard on myself.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@MrGrimm888- Introspection to the point of rumination is where it can go haywire, IMO.

rebbel's avatar

You got thàt right, also in my opinion.

Darth_Algar's avatar

To quote Frank Castle – “Happy is a kick to the balls waiting to happen.”

Vignette's avatar

@Darth_Algar I was bummed when the Punisher series ended.

stanleybmanly's avatar

I think we should consider if there is a difference between happiness and contentment.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@stanleybmanly -Would it make you happy to do so?

stanleybmanly's avatar

I’m content with the thought. Happiness smacks more about joy.

MrGrimm888's avatar

LLL. You make a video point. However, I see nothing wrong with trying to be who aspire to be…

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@stanleybmanly Is any dancing involved?:)
@MrGrimm888 -Agree

MrGrimm888's avatar

Edit. I meant vivid, not video.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Words are the steps in the dance of conversation. Precision with those steps is an unfortunate consequence of the brutal training that comes with ballet.

Zaku's avatar

Neither. Happiness is something else.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@Vignette

Indeed. And the Netflix series being cancelled is a good example of Frank’s quote in action.

I read my first Punisher comic way back in 1988. It immediately became my favorite and I started buying everything I could find with ol’ Frankie boy in it. Of course over the years I’ve witnessed some great takes on the character….and suffered through numerous shitty ones.

All those years I was hoping for just one good film take on Frank. Just 2 hours and I would have been happy. With the Netflix series I got 26 one-hour episodes of what has been just about the most perfect version of Frank I’ve ever seen (film or comic). So if we get no more than that I can be ok with it. But, I was really looking forward to more. Hopefully Disney can/will revive the series for Hulu. Or maybe give Jon Bernthal his own movie or two as Frank (as long as they keep it as relatively divorced from the larger MCU as the Netflix series was).

Vignette's avatar

@Darth_Algar At the risk of sounding like a marval comic geek ((I am not) or wasn’t) I too was hooked on Frank and not having read the comic book and being more of a movie buff I just enjoyed the well directed show, lead actor and writing. I found it as a new inductee into the realm of Netflix and needing something to occupy my skull while I squirrel caged it on my elliptical. So when that series ran out…up popped Janet Jones and that series hooked me just as much again with a excellent lead actress. I soon noticed the Netflix/Marvel connection and a year later still cranking away though remnants of Marvel superhero series (Daredevil, Iron Fist etc.) only in that they just continue to do a really good job with making those comics come to life. Great directing, acting, writing…just solid on all levels. I said to myself man netflix is awesome. On to other shows….well can’t say the same. Few make it to the same level of excellence especially the writing.

MrGrimm888's avatar

Darth. I love the Netflix series too. I hope that they continue it.

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