I wonder how history will record, document & remember the time of this virus...what do you think?
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March 21st, 2020
A bonafide global crisis
A time when the weak minded exposed themselves for what they are
A monumental overeaction
Somewhere inbetween
Stop the world I want to get off!
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It won’t be one story told.
How do we remember the Holocaust? Anne Frank, camp survivors, German sympathizers who sheltered frightened Jews, and the grand deniers, who swear it is all fantastic lies. Military prisoners who dug unbelievable tunnels to escape was the basis for the movie Stalag 13. New stories still surface.
This is nowhere comparable to the torture and slaughter of crowds of innocent men, women, and children, but it is a world involvement, and there will be stories of every imaginable flavor pop up for months or longer.
It will be remembered similar to the “Black Death. A very virulent form of plague which ravaged Asia and Europe in the 14th century.” -from Webster’s New Collegiate Dictionary, 1960 ed.
It will depend on who writes the history books there will be various versions. I think for most it will be remembered as a great pandemic significantly changing lives around the world. Possibly, it will be more about how healthy people changed their behaviors to avoid transmission, and how they hoarded food and paper goods rather than those who died. Spanish flu killed lots of young adults, plague killed everyone. This is killing mostly older adults.
I think the people who lose some lung capacity from the illness or who die will always be associated with the event. My grandmother died during the COVID19 pandemic, and everyone will know what that means.
I think history will remember all hospital patients with all illnesses were sick or died alone, because visitors couldn’t go in hospitals.
Maybe there will be a generation born starting 2021 known as Generation C. Especially, if there is another pandemic following this one where it is a normal state to fear or live with pandemic.
The Bible Belt will have books blaming China and the rest of the country will have history books blaming Trump and friends for their greed.
There will be sanitizing stations in more places around cities and towns. Just like paper and plastic covers for toilet seats became commonplace in public restrooms when HIV hit.
Hospitals having to choose who doesn’t receive medical health and watching those people die alone. Some health care workers developing PTSD.
It will be remembered as the death of the handshake (hopefully! That’s one silver lining to this horrible thing).
That people stayed in touch with social media.
I hope to God historians won’t have to be writing about pillaging and looting. There already has been some, but hopefully that won’t be widespread.
In America the election during this time will also go down in history.
History IS already recording this day by day in the media News Tv channels..nonstop updates.
I’ve wondered that too. Historians won’t, of course, record everything, and selectivity is inherently a distortion. One way or another, a bias will appear.
One thing I think is certain is that with hindsight there will be both causes and consequences that we can’t fathom now, including cascade effects such as the ones James Burke documented in his fascinating “Connections” series of the 1970s. (Google it. I can’t make a link of a URL that has parentheses in it.) For example, how did the invention of the thermos lead to putting a man on the moon? How did weavers’ patterns presage the computer? Burke explains.
In a political history, there will undoubtedly be a lot about what so-called leaders did and didn’t do and how their decisions saved us or screwed us. In a social history, there’ll be more about how people restored communities when the disease destroyed them, how people who’d never cooked before learned to make stew and bake bread, and how ordinary individuals became heroes or villains in small local dramas. Scandals, sacrifices, monumental betrayals and superhuman deeds will fall into a historical continuity that we can’t see from where we are, any more than a fish can see the ocean.
It doesn’t take a war of conquest or a volcanic eruption to change the course of history. It might just take an hour’s hesitation by a decision-maker at some crucial juncture.
In my neighborhood, a young woman took all the books out of the Little Free Library in her front yard and filled it with cleansing and sanitizing products free for the taking.
A newspaper columnist wrote a few days ago that the world as we remember it from two weeks ago is gone. She is probably right. The story of historical cataclysms that altered entire civilizations has been told again and again, and it will be told after us.
What an eloquent book preface!
Depends who writes the history, and how much after the COVID19 crisis it is written.
If the history is written in the next 5 years, it will be a big deal because the historian will dwell on the Trumpian leadership and how it failed.
If the history is written in 2070 (50 years from now), this will be a tiny blip. Think about it, the 1918 flu epidemic killed 50 million people across the world, and until last week, only a small number of people knew it existed.
The other point is the political leaning of the historian. A conservative historian will write the story of the 2020 pandemic different from a liberal.
Get a grip. So far there have been about 13,000 deaths world wide. It doesn’t compare to the ‘Spanish flu’ or the holocaust. The economic damage is more likely to be the story. We are already testing and using drugs to cure the disease. A French study shows the effectiveness of one such cure (the first graph). If this pans out we should be past this fairly quickly. A vaccine is also in the mill but with the results of the French study Hydrochoroquine can also be used as a prophylactic. Yes I’m conmcerned but certainly not scared. We need to take a deep breath and put this into perspective.
@Jaxk Who are you aiming “get a grip” at?
Being my question, I’m intrigued see.
My grip is tight & will never loosen!
@ucme – I’m just saying that comparing this to the Holocaust, the Spanish Flu or the Plague is simply an overreaction. None of the estimates are anywhere near those numbers. Most of us will be inconvenienced rather than killed by this virus. I have no problem with the preventative steps being taken but it’s not the end of the world.
I doubt anyone is equating the effects to be exactly like to the Holocaust, the Spanish flu, or the plague. Only saying it will be remembered in a similar fashion. Death isn’t everything, but being totally out of action for two weeks is.
@Jaxk I share your opinion & so maybe call out your targets next time, just friendly advice.
We joke this will turn out like Shaun of the Dead where pockets of us sane folks hide out in the pub.
@ucme – Yeah, your right. I usually feel like I’m talking to the collective rather than an individual. Maybe I’m getting ‘cabin fever’ like everyone else.
What, already?
I’m enjoying spending more time with the family, new pup included.
For some odd reason they don’t consider golf an essential service. I going through withdrawal.
@Jaxk Where I live the over 30 golf courses in my city are open. People need to each have their own golf cart, they can’t all pile into one. Don’t touch the flag thingy, whatever that’s called. I guess maybe there is still a chance of germs getting on the surface of the holes when reaching in for your ball though.
Some people are still playing tennis and pickle ball here also. I would with my husband, not with another couple in doubles. I would if we played those games. Although, the risk of getting hurt and needing to go to the hospital is t such a great thing in these times.
@Jaxk Where I live the over 30 golf courses in my city are open. People need to each have their own golf cart, they can’t all pile into one. Don’t touch the flag thingy, whatever that’s called. I guess maybe there is still a chance of germs getting on the surface of the holes when reaching in for your ball though.
Some people are still playing tennis and pickle ball here also. I would with my husband, not with another couple in doubles. I would if we played those games. Although, the risk of getting hurt and needing to go to the hospital isn’t such a great thing in these times.
@JLeslie – Around here the courses are closed and computer golf is just not the same. Maybe this is another good reason to move to Florida.
@Jaxk Where I live is a golf cart community, so almost all golfers have their own cart. They just drive from their garage to the greens. Many have electric carts so they don’t even need to worry about touching the fuel pumps.
I think they could have left the pools open if people hadn’t been crowding into them still. If they somehow could have self regulated to keep distance.
Around here they won’t allow gas carts on the course so you have to have an electric cart (when the courses were open). Of course you could always walk the course. Doesn’t matter as even the driving range is closed. I guess I’ll just stick to my computer games for the time being.
@Jaxk, maybe try a few new things. Maybe you can find a suitable substitute.
Maybe you can order some marbles, and invent a micro mini course!
I think history will remember this time as incredible that without a cure, the only solution was to stay home indefinitely.
The Age of Reason and Scientism—in other words, it will look back in scorn.
The experts have been usually the most unreliable and misleading of leaders.
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