How do you feel about the US now having more Covid 19 cases than Spain, Italy, France and China combined?

Well the Rep/cons keep screaming America is number 1, and look you are.
See they were right.

You can’t trust China. They were saying even in January that it could not be contagious through the air and surfaces. They destroyed evidence and made people disappear.

As for Southern Europe, per area / metropolitan area covered, yeah, we have reached that and even surpassed it in places like New York City and the Northeast states. Still, most hospitals are virtually empty. Only a few patients on the U.S. Comfort in New York, and not even many patients in the Central Park facility (Samaritan’s Purse) right in the middle of it all.

Horrific number of deaths, yet most who test positive have not gotten sick, or very sick, as they have in some places. I’d like to see a detailed report to understand the data.

What is the total population comparison?

The link I posted which I got from a jelly post days ago is a good one for getting more analytical data and statistical comparisons if you have time to explore it.

It seems we have lower mortality rates which is great!

The percentage to the population is what should be compared, not just whole numbers.

Spain, Italy and France combined is only about 150 million people, while the US is 350 million. Throw in China, China alone has 1.3 billion people, so we look horrible. Even if China is lying about some numbers it still probably isn’t that far off. From what I understand the US isn’t counting all nursing home deaths, and we probably had some deaths in January and February not counted that were listed under pneumonia.

Considering how late we came to the quarantine party, I would be very surprised if we don’t suffer proportionately.

The Wuhan travel ban and quarantine of infected individuals was put in place on January 30, @stanleybmanly . There was question as to whether it would be undone if Trump was removed from office (in February).

Trump was sharply criticized by the media and the democrats for most of February. Joe Biden was one of his harshest, most vocal critics. A month later, they were blaming him for not doing enough.

Co-Lo-Nies! Co-Lo-Nies! Co-Lo-Nies!
Ooorah, ooorah, ooorah!

Jan. 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.” — Trump in a CNBC interview.

Jan. 30: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you.” — Trump in a speech in Michigan.

Feb. 10: “Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do — you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though. We have 12 cases — 11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now.” — Trump at the White House. (See our item “Will the New Coronavirus ‘Go Away’ in April?“)

Feb. 14: “There’s a theory that, in April, when it gets warm — historically, that has been able to kill the virus. So we don’t know yet; we’re not sure yet. But that’s around the corner.” — Trump in speaking to National Border Patrol Council members.

Feb. 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.” — Trump in speaking to reporters.

Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” — Trump in a tweet.

Feb. 26: “So we’re at the low level. As they get better, we take them off the list, so that we’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck.” — Trump at a White House briefing.

Feb. 26: “And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.” — Trump at a press conference.

Feb. 26: “I think every aspect of our society should be prepared. I don’t think it’s going to come to that, especially with the fact that we’re going down, not up. We’re going very substantially down, not up.” — Trump at a press conference, when asked if “U.S. schools should be preparing for a coronavirus spreading.”

Feb. 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.” — Trump at a White House meeting with African American leaders.

Feb. 29: “And I’ve gotten to know these professionals. They’re incredible. And everything is under control. I mean, they’re very, very cool. They’ve done it, and they’ve done it well. Everything is really under control.” — Trump in a speech at the CPAC conference outside Washington, D.C.

March 4: “[W]e have a very small number of people in this country [infected]. We have a big country. The biggest impact we had was when we took the 40-plus people [from a cruise ship]. … We brought them back. We immediately quarantined them. But you add that to the numbers. But if you don’t add that to the numbers, we’re talking about very small numbers in the United States.” — Trump at a White House meeting with airline CEOs.

March 4: “Well, I think the 3.4% is really a false number.” — Trump in an interview on Fox News, referring to the percentage of diagnosed COVID-19 patients worldwide who had died, as reported by the World Health Organization. (See our item “Trump and the Coronavirus Death Rate.”)

March 7: “No, I’m not concerned at all. No, we’ve done a great job with it.” — Trump, when asked by reporters if he was concerned about the arrival of the coronavirus in the Washington, D.C., area.

March 9: “So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!” — Trump in a tweet.

March 10: “And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.” — Trump after meeting with Republican senators.

@Yellowdog Do you by any chance have links to the criticism by Biden and the media about blocking China flights? It’s not that I don’t believe you, it’s just I don’t remember it, but I wasn’t watching a ton of TV then.

The reason I question it is because Chuck Schumer and other Democrats have talked about having had asked to declare a state of emergency in January, I guess after they were briefed on the situation. Maybe not everyone in Congress was briefed, maybe the media was unaware of the whole situation.

Some reporting awaiting rebuttal from Fox News celebrities and fans.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-response-takeaways.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

@JLeslie “On the day Trump imposed the travel restrictions, Biden did criticize Trump for his “record of hysteria and xenophobia,” but it is unclear whether Biden was referring to Trump’s travel restrictions, or Trump’s overall qualifications to deal with the epidemic.

“We have right now a crisis with the coronavirus, emanating from China,” Biden said on Jan. 31 at a campaign event in Iowa. “A national emergency worldwide alerts. The American people need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it, that he is going to act rationally about it. In moments like this, this is where the credibility of the president is most needed, as he explains what we should and should not do. This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.” – https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/

@cheebdragon Ah, very interesting. I read that as a criticism of Trump’s constant and consistent xenophobic remarks. Mind you, I think Trump says those things mostly for the part of his base who responds to things like that.

Biden was right in my opinion, half the country will not listen to Trump, even when Trump is right at times. He has no credibility with half the country.

Republicans are set up right now to be extremely defensive at any implication they are being called racist, so it’s very easy for right leaning social and formal media to turn Biden’s statement into a criticism of Biden accusing Trump of Xenophobia of racism, picking up on those accusations of banning travel from some of the Mid East countries at the beginning of his time in the White House.