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What is your opinion on this Georgia case?

Asked by KNOWITALL (29877points) May 7th, 2020

The article states that a (white) former officer and his son observed a (black) man looking in a window of a house and were suspicious he may be responsible for recent break-in’s. Rather than calling the cops, they confronted the man with weapons and he ends up dying.

Another story is that he was simply jogging on the street and they stopped him for the reason given above.

What do you think happened? If anyone is down in Georgia, what do locals think? Is this just another example of modern racism?

Article link to story and video.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/us/ahmaud-arbery-jogging-georgia-shooting/index.html

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ragingloli's avatar

A couple of racists actively hunting black people for sport, and hiding behind the “we thought he was a criminal” excuse.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

And you wonder why I don’t think very highly of the US?

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

People do some idiotic things everywhere.
I imagine I will see this on a crime series at some point
I read about a retired police officer that took a shot at a carload of kids that he thought stole his phone from his vehicle.

kritiper's avatar

@SQUEEKY2 Do you think we’re all like that??

KNOWITALL's avatar

@ragingloli That’s my first thought as well. I’m curious how anyone could see it differently. Even a cirizens arrest (hold for police) was more appropriate. Why would a former cop not know better?!

Inspired_2write's avatar

“Former Officer”,“Rather then calling the cops”
“They confronted the man with weapons”

All errors in judgement, plus with a “son” present..all dangerous choices.

The “former Officer” was not using good judgement..rather he should had called the cops and or observed the man for identification later.

He was foolish to confront with his son by his side as well.

I suspect that “former officer” is no longer in the Police Force for a reason?

This will all be brought out in Court I assume?

janbb's avatar

@Inspired_2write The son is an adult and so far they have not been arrested. There are protests going on about this and calls for their arrest. It is homicide and not justifiable.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

@kritiper Of course not, just seems to be a lot coming from the southern states the Northern States seem a lot more sane.

Demosthenes's avatar

I’m sure these inbreds will claim self-defense because they confronted someone with a gun for no reason and he fought back (gee, people don’t like being confronted with a gun for no reason, the nerve!) And knowing the “stand your ground” BS they’ll probably get away with murder too. Let’s hope for a better outcome than that. Recipe to get away with murder in these states: confront someone, entice them to fight you, when they do, shoot them dead. You’re off scot-free.

chyna's avatar

This happened in February. No charges have been brought, yet. I’m thinking if the radio station hadn’t broadcast the video and incident, it would have been swept under the rug. The father and son said the jogger appeared to resemble a person of interest in home burglaries in the area. I’d like to know if there were actually any burglaries in the area and how did he “resemble” the person of interest? By being black?
This just angers me to no end.

janbb's avatar

I just read the father and son are 64 and 34. They need to be arrested and tried.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@chyna Looks like they used COVID shutdown as the excuse. It’s interesting to me not only for the injustice, but because a lot of police departments have been caught being racist in the last few years and bills passed against profiling, etc…(Senate Bill 5 in Missouri.) How they have the gall to basically ‘ignore’ a ‘hate crime’/ murder at this point is beyond me. Treyvon all over again. Sigh.

Updated articles:
For two months the 25-year-old jogger’s mother, Wanda Cooper Jones said no one would listen to her story.
...
“It is a crime of murder. The people who participated are considered accomplices to that murder. We have heard the excuse that the Georgia Supreme Court has suspended the grand jury because of the coronavirus and an arrest cannot be made. We reject that,” attorney Merritt insisted.
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/parents-of-south-georgia-jogger-cry-out-for-justice-call-for-arrests-of-3-men

Nearly three months after the killing, no arrests have been made and no charges have been filed in the case.

Cooper-Jones said she believes authorities haven’t made any arrests because Gregory McMichael had a lengthy career as an investigator in the Brunswick district attorney’s office before recently retiring.

stanleybmanly's avatar

It appears that due to the elder McMichael’s former job, local law enforcement shied away from prosecuting him. Beyond the reluctance of his former co-workers to bring him to account is the can of worms involved with finding someone eligible (or willing) to investigate and prosecute him. From what I understand, since this began, everyone local has sought to recuse themselves because they know and worked with him. No one wants to touch the hot potato, and everyone has what can pass for a legitimate excuse. The latest dispatch is that the state intends to put the matter before a grand jury, but the issue of who they can find to run the career suicide show is weighty. My guess is that the state will pass the buck to the Feds on the grounds that the crime is a civil rights violation. That would allow local prosecutors and judges to slip the hook in this election year.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@stanleybmanly Sad reflection on the people in that area if that’s the case.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Can anyone say it would have changed nothing if the person shot was a white guy??
Oh and if 2 question marks bother anyone then BITE ME!

stanleybmanly's avatar

@KNOWITALL I wouldn’t be so hard on them. It’s a tough spot to expect people to investigate and prosecute someone they’ve worked with for years. Put in that position, I would certainly attempt to
recuse myself for fear of my bias on behalf of the accused.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@stanleybmanly Perhaps that’s the case. I hope justice prevails.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Nowadays when I hear the word “justice” I just want to sigh and exhale slowly. So much of what happens in life is attributable to random chance and just plain luck. I’m just grateful not to be in a position of prosecutor, witness or juror. One stint as juror in a murder trial some 40 years ago set me on the road of doubting justice. I never got over it.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@stanley Wasnt OJ I hope?

chyna's avatar

I just read that they have arrested those 2 men for murder.

janbb's avatar

@chyna Me too! Yay – although it doesn’t bring him back.

stanleybmanly's avatar

No it was ten years before OJ. He is an example of the relationship between money and justice—plain & simple. He managed to spend beyond the competence of the state.

stanleybmanly's avatar

I was pretty sure that public opinion would force an indictment, but I bet it falls to the Feds to procure a conviction.

josie's avatar

Sounds bad

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