What is an acceptable death toll to get the economy up and running?

~As long as is other people who die than who cares. Our selves or family 0.

That’s an excellent question and I don’t know the answer.

I know this new disease that is killing kids is very scary. I am guessing that school won’t be back in the autumn 2020, since there’s no way to socially distance little kids.

I am lucky to live in a state where the governor is really into safety (NYS, Cuomo).

Luckily, my salary is not affected by layoffs or furloughs, although it’s possible for the future. I am not worried about getting laid off, because I’ve been with my employer for over 20 years, but it’s always possible and if I did lose my job, I’m sure I’d be frantic.

It’s crazy that a lot of states are opening up too soon, and that some people (a lot of people) feel this is a conspiracy and a lot of bullshit.

Your question makes a lot of assumptions.

That there is an acceptable death toll that gets an economy up and running.
As if anybody on Earth, including you, really feels good about debating an acceptable death rate.
As if anybody really measures economic progress against death. Only cynics of the highest order would do that, and they should be ashamed of that level of cynicism.

As if finally, one day, reasonable people will say ” Well, the Death Toll finally hit the max, so let ‘s just say fuck it and get the economy up and running.

I assume that if you do not care about the economy you are
1. Wealthy beyond current economic concerns, or
2. Dependant on a third party check and imagine that it will show up forever because you are used to it, or believe you are entitled to it
3. You live in a refrigerator box under a bridge and simply don’t understand stuff.

That total deaths from the virus pandemic will be different if everybody keeps hiding. Truth is, until there is a vaccine, the infection/death rate is inevitable. It’s just a matter of time.

What is your fantasy to stop the infection rate/death rate of the virus?

Uh how fright wing turn it back on me, I am not against starting the economy but slowly with health professionals in the drivers seat.
And fright wingers saying you can’t shut down 100%,and you guys didn’t the food supply didn’t stop, fuel didn’t stop.
Now large slaughter houses are getting the infection bad should those workers be forced to carry on?
You willing to put yourself in their place?
Businesses that can observe social distancing with workers and customers should be able to fire up, those that can’t should adjust so they can or stay shut until safe to open.

How left wing to call somebody who takes issue with your ideas, right wing.
As if right wing, true or not, is a stigma that will stick any longer than the day the politics change. Which they always do.
Then what?

Well one thing I seem to value human life more than you seem to.

Then you don’t know @josie

Get your facts right, or get lost, my friend

Your the one that wants people to go back to work long before it’s safe to do so, and now you say you value human life doesn’t look like it.

@SQUEEKY2

Until there is a vaccine or universal acquired immunity it will never be “safe”.
Do you also dream of world peace?

That is true so Businesses will have to implement safety measures if they can’t then they should stay closed until they can be safe.

Whatever you are saying…
OK

Or don’t you agree,it’s not up to businesses to make sure the work place is as safe as it possibly can be?

It’s up to employees to decide if they feel safe working there
If they don’t, they should not go back

yeah can’t put the responsibility on the company that would cost money, a great deal of people don’t have the luxury of changing jobs on a whim.

Okay so @josie you have no living relatives as any deaths wouldn’t impact you. That makes your decision easy.

@Tropical_Willie

A little presumptuous

Okay how many of them do you wish to see dead ?? Any and all over 60 ?

I know nothing about you but my experience is that people who talk like that don’t know anything about death except their grandmas funeral.

So it’s easy for them to accuse others of being indifferent to death.

I’VE BEEN REVIVED TWICE !

You want the economy up regardless of peoples safety, you are right I know nothing about you but you seem more than willing to put people in harms way just to get the economy up and going.
That sounds extremely fright wing.

So back to you !

Who do you want to die in your family ? ? ?

Answer is we’re all conservative and Trump and Pence will protect ya !

The US should not be having a national conversation that pits the economy against coronavirus efforts in a false dichotomy, and yet a small portion of figures in media are pushing for that sort of narrative (and shame on them for doing so).

The truth is that everyone wants America to reopen as soon as possible — claiming otherwise is completely absurd. Governors from both parties are doing their best to make that happen, but their efforts have been slowed and hampered because they haven’t gotten the tools, resources and guidance they need from the federal government to reopen safely and sustainably.

You posted this a week ago and we were at 85,000 lost. Today we crossed the 96,000 mark. By next Saturday we will more than likely surpass 100,000 unless we receive a miracle and I don’t see that happening

I think we’re at 100,000 today @SEKA.

According to John Hopkins, we crossed 97,000 today with 1.6 million confirmed cases @jca2

You’re right, @SEKA. I looked at the headline yesterday and it said “close to 100,000” and I didn’t pay close attention. My sincerest apologies.

^ We crossed the 100,000 mark today 05/27/2020