What possible excuse could any Trump supporter give for these truly bizarre quotes about space?

Either he writes his own speeches, or he hires incompetent people to write his speeches.

The second option would fit with his general hiring practices.

Time will tell.
Maybe they will, maybe they won’t.

Collective Dunning-Kruger effect on a massive scale.

Maybe he actually looks smart to them.

@Jeruba….OMG! That is spot on!

We won’t get far in space now.

On March 9. 2011, Obama retired our space program and consigned it to our allies, the Russians. Putin said that if the Americans want to get to the International Space Station, we would need a trampoline. Today, the Russians and the Chinese have a monopoly on space.

The Space Force looks like a joke, especially with the way it is portrayed in the media. It is doubtful our anti-Trump congress will support it, and once Trump is no longer in office it will probably be scrapped altogether.

Ronald Reagan started the Star Wars initiative in the 1980s, and the last battle we won from space was the Iraqi war. Today, China and Russia can wipe out any initiative we take in space exploration, and can win a war against us from space.

@Yellowdog Check out SpaceX I’m sure you know where Cape Canaveral is located.

You really don’t know what is going on ???

@Yellowdog

Jesus jumped-up Christ, man. Get with reality a little, will ya?

When the Space Shuttle program was retired it was already nearly two decades past it’s designed lifespan. And Obama didn’t retire it, George W. Bush did. And it wasn’t retired without plans to replace it either. One such plan was a government/private partnership which just saw fruition earlier this very day, Saturday, May 30th, 2020 with the NASA/Space X launch of two astronauts to the International Space Station from Cape Canaveral, Florida.

I asked your thoughts / defense of trump’s bizarre quotes, not a rambling dialogue of the state of our space program. Focus @Yellowdog.

What Trump has to say about space is right up there with anything else he wants to talk about. I think for the most part, regardless of all and any experience to the contrary when an individual speaks we anticipate him making sense. Three years in, and when Trump talks the incredulity on the faces of those listening is still pronounced—every time. The world stares in disbelief at the United States and its moron President apparently free from the rigors of any accountability on ANYTHING.

I’m sure his daddy bought his military school diploma and the college degree (after daddy made a large donation) !

Believe it or not, those quotes don’t bother me. A lot was made especially about the second quote, but he was just inarticulate. His point was could we have a Mars program without having a Moon program. It’s a legitimate questions.

With the SpaceX launch today, you @Dutchess_lll should be praising Trump for once, rather than trying to make ‘bizarre quotes and ramblings’ out of Trump’s speech about the evolution of our mission in space.

China and Russia are way ahead of us because of delays and quiet from the dark ages the previous 8–10 years; For the first time in ten years, there is hope about space exploration and defense.

I don’t hear a lot of negative about ‘ramblings’ except on Fluther. We’re in space again, and have access to the technology and space development we started decades ago, Why not celebrate for once>

@Yellowdog

Why should she, or anyone, praise a man who had nothing to do with it?

@Yellowdog

W H A T ! !

Probably hoping to say something stupid enough to draw attention from his comment about looting and shooting.

I gave up trying to understand his supporters months ago.

You should try it as well. You’ll be happier.

As usual, when I see “quotes” from President Trump being used as some sort of tool to ridicule him, I have to go back to find the actual source to look at the quotes in context, not just a snippet that can be used to smear. What I found was interesting. The original question cited July 2017 as the time of the first quote. It was actually June 30, 2017. So immediately I see the OP used an inaccurate source. The quote listed came from the remarks the President was making while signing the EO for the creation of the National Space Council. Here is the part of the speech where that quote came from:

“Our Vice President cares very deeply about space policy, and for good reason — space exploration is not only essential to our character as a nation, but also our economy and our great nation’s security.

Our travels beyond the Earth propel scientific discoveries that improve our lives in countless ways here, right here, at home: powering vast new industry, spurring incredible new technology, and providing the space security we need to protect the American people. And security is going to be a very big factor with respect to space and space exploration. At some point in the future, we’re going to look back and say how did we do it without space?”
Now, when I read that in context, it starts to make a bit more sense. He is talking about the benefits we find from our space program and our efforts to explore space. And he basically says that at some point in the future, we will be able to look back and wonder how we could have gotten some of the benefits we have seen, technologically and economically, without going to space.
The second quote is just as skewed as the first, though the date is correct this time. The quote came out of a press event the President was having, celebrating the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11. The key players at this meeting, at least the ones that had any speaking roles up to the point of this quote, were former astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins and NASA chief Jim Bridenstine. The conversation at the time was about going to the moon and ultimately Mars. Bridenstine expressed the view that the moon was a necessary step in getting to Mars. The trip to Mars was going to be an extended one since Mars and Earth are only on the same side of the Sun every 26 months. The moon gives us a place to set up extended living conditions so people can get used to living/working on other planets and any challenges can be identified and addressed before sending people to Mars and finding out then. President Trump then asked the astronauts their view and both said “Mars direct”. It was after this comment that President Trump made the comment quoted by the OP. And it was a question directed at NASA chief Bridenstine. It was asking if it was possible to go directly to Mars without colonizing the moon or using the moon as a launching base. The actual answer was that the moon was not going to be used as a launching base, but they wanted to put a space station called Gateway in orbit around the moon and they wanted to launch a Mars mission from there. The reasoning was that the gravity of the moon and on the space station would be far less than on Earth so from an aspect of the amount of fuel required it would be far less.
As usual, when liberals want to try bashing Trump, they will take a snippet of conversation out of a speech or a comment he makes, take it entirely out of context, and then try to make it look like some loony tune comment out of left field. But then that is how most of the Trump hatred is fueled…through purposeful misreporting.

The moon thing goes all the way back when Mars missions were being planned in the 80’s. Using the moon as a midway stop was political because the mars missions would have cut funding away from groups working on lunar missions. The mars direct mission proposals were a response to those early political dumpster fires. Politics took the direct mission project down also.

The speeches as written are never the problem. If he stuck to what is written for him, it might be difficult to recognize him for the idiot he is. But the fool ALWAYS leaves the script and ambles afar free associating all the while in non sequesters highlighting the crude and petty aspects of his personality. His endless monologues are distinguished for a particularly peculiar mean streak of cruelty highlighting a marked paucity of intellect. He ALWAYS comes off as mean and dumb, and I defy you to name a celebrity anywhere so dependably tasteless yet eager to parade his vulgar traits at every turn. He is all in all your textbook aberration “piece of work”. And yet his defenders persist in ignoring these little defects and accuse those who do notice of hatred. An odd conclusion regarding a man so visibly inclined to exude hatred from every pore.

@stanleybmanly this wasn’t a speech. There was no teleprompters. And the quotes were only bad when the libs try taking them out of context and assigning some bizarre meaning so their weak-minded followers will buy it.

Bizarre meaning and weak-minded defines every impromptu attempt the dummy makes at droning tiresome exposition. You would be hard put to name anyone so consistently reliable at embarrassing himself and his country simply through running his mouth. He should preface every attempt with “there is nothing in my head but meanness and vulgarity and now I will prove it.”

So basically Seawulf does not deny that the statements were uttered, nor does he deny that the statements were bizarre.

His complaint is that someone actually quoted them in a way he disapproves of.

How Trumpian. Seawulf follows his master.

@elbanditoroso Try again, sonny. Seawulf does not deny the statements were uttered. They were. And in context they make perfect sense. Unfortunately I do complain that the fools try to take it out of context to say it is bizarre. I notice you really didn’t actually address how these statements were used in context…you just went along with the Hate Trump crowd. How very liberal of you…your weak mind is manipulated by your masters.

@stanleybmanly You would be hard put to find anyone that the MSM has so persistently maligned and taken out of context to make him look bad. But keep up the good work…your weak mind shows the world what it means to be one of today’s liberals. Basically a parrot to repeat the hatred spewed by your propagandists.

You apologists for the dummy completely miss the irony in claiming the idiot’s disgrace the manufactured product of a hostile press. When in fact the very definition of Trump’s waking life is the single word scurrilous. The truth is that the press, even the HOSTILE press treats the scumbag with a decency that belies justice. My rants against the fool are straight up compassionate justice compared to what the intractable buffoon truly merits. And it is my fervent hope that the media finds the sense to feed the insufferable dumbbell his own medicine.

“You apologists for the dummy completely miss the irony in claiming the idiot’s disgrace the manufactured product of a hostile press” I just proved to you that the hostile press did just that! I just showed you exactly how! And you are still in denial. You Trump Haters can’t even see reality when it is right in front of you. And so your weak minds give in to the propaganda you are fed.

You haven’t proven anything beyond the fact that denial is more than a misspelling of a river in Egypt. If you cannot admit what is right before your eyes, what is the point of any discussion. Conversation with you is pointless as long as you lie to yourself regarding the fact that the deranged dummy is indeed the moron so much of his frustrated staff has publicly announced to us all.

Amazing. I just took the two “quotes” presented by the OP and showed exactly how those quotes were pulled out of context to be used in an effort to smear the POTUS. And you can’t really argue that, but refuse to admit it. Because God knows if you admitted it, the rest of your bizarre Trump derangement would start unraveling faster than a ball of yarn in a room full of cats. All you can do is cling to your meaningless hatred. I really pity you.

Just saying they were taken out of context doesn’t make it true.

@Dutchess_lll If the statements were taken out of context and given sheer randomness, they are changed to give different meaning. You listed two quotes, entirely out of context and gave them the meaning of “bizarre”...that they were really out there. I took it all back to the original statements when those quotes were made. When put back into context, they are no longer bizarre. So you are partially right…just saying they were taken out of context doesn’t make it true. But when I can show how they were taken out of context and put them back into context…yeah, it does make it true.

He’s an idiot.

Possibly. But then, aren’t you the one that spread the propaganda without bothering to find out the truth of the comments? What does that make you?

It makes her disenchanted with an idiot.

^Good one. :D

@stanleybmanly so “disenchanted” is now the excuse for spreading lies? Any port in the storm, eh?

I don’t believe you understand the folly involved in raising the issue of OTHERS lying into a discussion of the fool. The fact that Trump is a duplicitous idiot renders accusations of slanders against him superfluous to the conversation. What possible lies might the press or Dutchess invent that can top the truth concerning our paradigm lying moron? Trump’s character shortfalls are not the invention of his detractors nor a hostile press. He is a pathologically driven narcissistic lying psychopath, and dumb as a brick. Nothing supposedly invented against him will ever top the simple and painfully spectacular truth.

Gee, @stanleybmanly I think we played this game before. You know…the one where I challenged you to actually list his lies? And what we started finding was that most the “obvious” lies were things taken out of context or created by the media. There were some that were exaggerations, such as the size of a crowd, but not complete lies. And there were a few truly bizarre things that have been said. But it isn’t nearly as horrific as you fools on the left like to make it out to be since it is your propagandists that create most of them.

Trump is himself out of context. He a TV reality show host and fraud.

Listing wouldn’t make any difference to you ‘cause it’s all FAKE NEWS, except Fox and OAN.

@Tropical_Willie You are correct…listing wouldn’t make any difference. It was tried once before and I went through and randomly picked a few examples and found, when I went back to the origin, that the MSM took something out of context and blew it out of proportion. And when I pointed that out, all you loyal libbies refused to acknowledge any of it. So it doesn’t make any difference. When facts are readily ignored in favor of opinion and slant, any conversation is useless.

List the lies? You call that a challenge? Is Mexico paying for the wall? Did the epidemic end in mid April with 46,000 American deaths? Did Joe Scarborough actually “get away with murder”? Is the fool either stable or a genius? Does he know more about Isis than his generals? Was he lying when he promised to reveal his taxes? Is he responsible for the greatest economy in the history of the country?

@stanleybmanly – don’t fret, you’ll get rationalizations and misdirections and confusions. What you won’t get is an acknowledgement. That’s how he rolls. If he doesn’t have a good answer, he twists your words and deflects all blame. That’s our boy.

@stanleybmanly Okay. Let’s play. Give me links to your claims.

Washington Post Trump lies 19,000 and counting.

Thank You TW.

@seawulf575 at this point, a request for links on Trump lying is equivalent to asking for proof that fire is hot or rain is damp. That Trump is an inveterate compulsive liar is not an issue open to legitimate debate, and you know it.

@stanleybmanly At this time, as at ALL times, when you make wild claims, you need to be able to back it up. That is something you never do. This is no exception.

He can’t

He won’t

He just goes BLAH BLAH BLAH

He like to copy and paste too.

@stanleybmanly

@Tropical_Willie Thanks for the ammo. Let’s look at one of the biggies that WaPo claims is a lie. Trump’s touting of hydrochloroquine as a possible cure for Covid-19. So to start with, he never said it WAS a cure, just that it had good potential and we should look at it. He has ALWAYS left it to doctors and medical professionals to make those decision and do the testing. So to say it was a lie is a stretch in itself. But I am really glad you chose this as an example. There was a report put out by a company called Surgisphere that claimed they had done a study that showed fatal side effects from using this drug, shortly after President Trump made his statements. Surgisphere is owned by a Dr. Sapan Dasai, a vascular surgeon from Illinois. The study he co-authored with 4 other people was published in the medical journal Lancet and The New England Journal of Medicine. In summation, their study showed that using hydrochloroquine to treat Covid-19 could result in many fatal side effects. As a result of this study, pretty much all the major players in battling this virus such as the World Health Organization and the Center for Disease Controls dropped all studies into this as a treatment for Covid-19.
Now for the interesting part. Surgishpere came out the other day and retracted their conclusions. There were a lot of people asking for their study and their methodologies for testing and in the end, they didn’t have anything. They basically made it up. Looking deeper, you find that Surgisphere employs a grand total of 11 people, including Dr. Dasai. One of the employees is a science-fiction writer, another is an adult-content model. Not medical professionals. Their contribution to humanity seems to be text books for medical students. Looking a little closer, your find that Dr. Dasai is named in 3 medical malpractice lawsuits filed in the second half of 2019. You can look at products Surgisphere has put out and there were several 5 star reviews from medical professionals. Sounds good until those medical professional see their names next to reviews they never made.
So let’s review a little. WaPo is a liberal schlock fest. It calls Trump a liar because he stated that he has heard good things about hydrochloroquine and that we should look at it as a possible treatment for Covid-19. Somehow they view that as a lie…because he voiced an opinion. So right there, counting it as a lie is suspect. But they use the evidence of a study that showed fatal side effects as a basis for saying he is a liar. And that study has been found to be a fraud. Not only was it bogus, but it stopped clinical trials across the globe that could have led to a possible treatment and saved lives. So in summation, a liberal rag cited a false study produced by a sketchy company to call Trump a liar. Huh. Yeah…you got me there. As @Dutchess_lll reminds us, just because you say it, doesn’t make it so. And in this case, when you dig in and do the homework, you find the ones calling him a liar…the MSM…are lying. And you believe them.

Where’d you copy this wall of words from ?

Your leader can’t pass a Sixth grade end of year test.

He hates all people of color even a little color, he has repeatedly denied called Meghan Markle “nasty”! must have been his father’s favorite words for people of color.

And you don’t read anything that doesn’t have ultra right wing logos

Interesting. Unlike you, I don’t need a book full of talking points. But since I ask for citations from others, here you go:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/03/covid-19-surgisphere-who-world-health-organization-hydroxychloroquine

https://nypost.com/2020/06/03/who-resumes-hydroxychloroquine-research-after-bad-data/

https://nypost.com/2020/06/04/authors-retract-study-saying-hydroxychloroquine-could-be-harmful/

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/disputed-hydroxychloroquine-study-brings-scrutiny-to-surgisphere-67595

There are, of course, many, many others. I know…you want to just say they are bad sources so they don’t count because, after all, you can’t argue the content but you can’t accept the reality either. So here are some more main stream outets:

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/study-safety-malaria-drugs-coronavirus-retracted-71075176

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/hydroxychloroquine-study-the-lancet-peer-review-coronavirus/12324118

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending/negative-hydroxychloroquine-study-retracted-over-questions-about-source-data/TA766HNS4JC3FI2FF5ZWHUMWBA/

https://ktvz.com/health/2020/06/04/two-coronavirus-studies-retracted-after-questions-emerge-about-data/

But then, you really don’t care about sources or facts. All you really care about is your hatred of Trump. It’s called obsessive hatred. Here is an interesting article about hatred. Watching all you Trump haters, you are marching right down the line, ticking off all the steps. Congrats…you are pretty much a textbook hater.

Your leader still can’t pass end of year test for sixth grade.

Remember OP’s Q was “What possible excuse could any Trump supporter give for these truly bizarre quotes about space?”

I don’t hate him; I feel sorry for Melania.

He is what he is a blowhard and narcissistic person that idolizes Hitler.

@Tropical_Willie Yes, I remember the original question. I also remember dismembering that assumption that those were bizarre quotes about space. It was just more lies from the MSM that fools repeat over and over. Much like you do. And while you claim to not hate President Trump, why is it that you can’t actually make a statement about him that doesn’t degrade him? To harbor that much disgust with someone sure looks like obsessive hatred to me.

@Tropical_Willie Oh! and while we’re at it, how is it that @stanleybmanly makes these bloviating statements about Trump and when he is challenged to show citations for them, he never does? But then when you step in to “help” him, he steps out of the conversation to let you take the heat for the idiocy of his claims?

I bet I know what you call people of color. . . . . Let me guess ! @seawulf575

You are a “Class Act” ! not

We know you would have your EYES burn out if you read Washington Post but maybe you should.

So just how many of the 19,000 examples toted up by the Post must we list as exaggeration, or misleading because they were taken out of context? Half? Instead of 19,000 are there merely a paltry 9500 ACTUAL lies? And get your facts straight. The hydroxychloroquine debacle was not about the fool’s lying. That one was about not knowing his ass from a hole in the ground. It was about a level of appalling and astonishing ignorance unheard of in any President. The fool actually confessed to being on a regimen of the compound, and as with his other lethal snake oil suggestions (ingesting bleach) had to be loudly and universally countered by the entirety of the medical community. The truth is that the fool is more likely than not a greater hazard to the public health than the pandemic itself. He just cannot be trusted or believed on a word he says regardless of how significant or trivial the topic. Again, this issue of Trump’s veracity is not about liberal or conservative ideology. The lying duplicitous pile of shit has deprived YOU of any hope of being viewed as a man of integrity.

@stanleybmanly “The hydroxychloroquine debacle was not about the fool’s lying. That one was about not knowing his ass from a hole in the ground.” Unfortunately your argument falls apart because the WaPo says this was a lie. They made a big deal out of it. They even implied it was one of the things they used to give him the Bottomless Pinocchio status. So you are wrong again…it IS about the fool’s lying. Not to mention that is all you were arguing! You were saying he lies repeatedly. In fact, if you go back, pretty much every statement you have made, and especially the one where I challenged you for a list of lies, have said that very thing. So now you are trying to dodge…change the focus. Face it…there is a “list” of lies from an organization that has just been proven to be horrible at establishing that. They lie to call him a liar. They take opinion he offers that they don’t like and call it lies. He says “Hey, I think we ought to do this.” and they say “It’s a lie!”. Sounds a lot like you and @Tropical_Willie when you get down to it. So I don’t have to go through the 19,000 “lies” they have claimed since they have proven they are not reputable in this area.

@Tropical_Willie You are amazing. You are like a high strung little dog that gets excited about nothing and runs around yapping and peeing on the floor. You jumped right in with your citation about Trump lies, like a good little dog supporting his master. Then I took that, rolled it up, and swatted you on the butt with it. You then tried three different dodges in one statement. You maligned the President’s intelligence, you maligned his marriage, and you maligned his personality. Oh! and you compared him to Hitler. None of which was on topic. You did try to get us back to the original topic in a really snide way and I took that up and showed you exactly how I have been right on topic…the topic you had just dodged from. So what is your response? You make personal slams on me…claims of which you know nothing. You even make a completely false statement in your effort to slam me and protect your precious propaganda outlet. You claim my eyes would burn out if I dared to read the WaPo. Let me ask…how did I know all that stuff about a WaPo article you cited if I hadn’t read it? Oh yeah…there’s that pesky logic again! Tell you what…why don’t you quickly message @stanleybmanly to whine. Maybe your master will pet your head.

Your low wattage efforts to displace the fool’s lying idiocy on the press is as stupidly dishonest as the fool himself. You insult us all and demean yourself with the preposterous instigation that the mainstream media is required to conclude the fool an intractable liar. Obama’s Kenyan birth is a flat out lie just as surely as you are an illogical would be backwater pundit. The folly of Trump’s habitual and vociferous lying as concoction of the press is just plain stupid, and a man must be gauged devoid of either intellect or integrity to conclude otherwise. No one here needs the Washington Post to understand that Mexico did not pay for the wall or that any assertion that the fool is not a consumate and inveterate liar is itself so dishonest as to render those making such claims complicit in the dummy’s deceit and perversion. Your intransigence on the matter designates you as warped and discredited as the dumbbell himself. Your own self assessment of your logical brilliance is beyond laughable if you are going to pretend before us all that Donald Trump is not the detestable lying turd he so visibly is. Trump as a liar is NOT a matter for speculation OR debate. Like him, you are entitled to lie to yourself all you want, but don’t peddle that dishonest crap to the rest of us.

Honestly folks, why even bother with this clown anymore?

@stanleybmanly I know…I’m horrible. But then…well…I did show evidence to support my views? All you’ve done is bloviate and make personal attacks. Tell you what…when you actually start giving citations for your bullshit, you will gain a small margin of credibility for being something other than a liberal mouthpiece.

@Darth_Algar Yes, why bother with me? And clown! wow. And you always claim you don’t make personal attacks. Good job. I notice you didn’t bother to actually weigh in on the story I just completely bashed so I can only assume you know I am right but just can’t seem to bring yourself to admit it since it would shatter your carefully balance delusions.

Did I address you, Wulfie?

It sure seemed that way, DA