What is your opinion on the forced mass sterilisations being perpetrated at the ICE concentration camps?

I think ICE and Homeland Security should be disbanded, and all of their actions, including (and not only including) this be thoroughly investigated at all levels, publicly exposed, never done again, shamed to hell where it belongs, and prosecuted to the fullest extent possible.

What?? Where did you dig this crap up???

@kritiper The news just broke about 4 hours ago. It’s gonna take a minute for confirmation and to reach a major news network, if it’s allowed. If you’re not aware, it’s not in the US interest to report news that makes themselves look too bad.

There are multiple examples of Americans taking advantage of poor people for medical experimentation. The Tuskegee Syphilis experiments, for example.

They learned their skills from the Germans, of course.

@elbanditoroso True; we hired the German ‘doctors’ and scientists to work in universities and elsewhere. They continued with the ‘research’ they were already doing in Germany.

As for the sterilizations, I have yet to hear about it from any major network, but that doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

@elbanditoroso No. The Germans learned Eugenics from the Americans. It was all the craze in the late 19th and early 20th century US and in fact California’s sterilisation program was so effective the Nazis turned to it for advice on how to do it.

This story is being covered by other sources, e.g. The Guardian and Vox, and it is a horror. I have never had more understanding of ordinary German people during the Holocaust who stood by than I do now. It is crushing to realize how much evil can be perpetrated in your name. I’m trying to find out which organizations are fighting to end it, along with the ones I already support and donate money to them at least.

It’s hard to feel like Ann Frank who still believed “that people were basically good at heart.”

Here is a copy of the full report. The piece about hysterectomies starts on page 18. The whole thing is horrifying.

There is another factor here that doesn’t seem to be being mentioned. Why are there mass hysterectomies and not mass vasectomies? A hysterectomy carries a much higher risk rate than a vasectomy. This indicates a high level of misogynistic punishment as well as the obvious eugenic aspect.

If I have missed the part about vasectomies, I am sorry, I skimmed the articles.

And please, don’t justify this with the usual crap about how it’s much more effective to sterilize the women because blah blah blah.

@canidmajor
Unlike Vasectomies, Hysterectomies are not reversible.
And if need be, sperm can be extracted directly from the testes.

@ragingloli Thank you for picking up on this story. I read your post first and have corroborated with other articles. It led me to take action; I have donated to several immigrants’ rights organizations; some of which I had already donated to in the past. They and the ACLU are the ones fighting this on the ground. I also donate to a local immigrants’ rights organization.

Money ism’t everything but it helps the people who are most effectively fighting against the concentration camps do their work.

Yes, @ragingloli, I know that, ideally, vasectomies are reversible. However, two things, here: 1) A sloppily done vasectomy is not, and 2) both reversing a vasectomy and extracting semen directly from the testes are procedures unlikely to be undertaken by members of an oppressed group that likely live either near or below the poverty line.

Your point was silly, given the context, and simply reinforces mine.

Just another fruit of horrible liberal precedent

In 1927, the U.S. Supreme Court decided, by a vote of 8 to 1, to uphold a state’s right to forcibly sterilize a person considered unfit to procreate. The case, known as Buck v. Bell, centered on a young woman named Carrie Buck, whom the state of Virginia had deemed to be “feebleminded.

That resulted in 70 000 forced sterilizations.

@LogicHead An example from almost 100 years ago is silly. It’s like shouting “Lincoln was a Republican!” to defend something. Silly.