Do you think Trump will actually get convicted of his many crimes?
And will he really go to jail?
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He cannot possibly live long enough to face prosecution for them all. On top of that, your dog would have no problem presenting a powerful argument for mental impairment as a defense in any trial to come. But there should be no hesitation in calling this career criminal to account if there is to be any credibility to such concepts as justice or equality before the law.
Rumor has it he’s skiving off to Scotland on January 19th. I don’t know if that’s true and Scotland is now going into lockdown for January so that may affect his travel plans. And I doubt that Scotland will roll out the red carpet for him.
I truly don’t know if he will ever be prosecuted. He is a wily bastard who cares for nothing but money and his own ego. I hope he is.
I don’t think he’s wily so much as lucky. We just haven’t done anything.
I almost prefaced this with “if he were smart”, but given the fact that it’s difficult to imagine any disgrace exceeding his present achievements, he might as well flee the country for places free of extradition treaties with the United States.
~No he will probably take off to Argentina.
He’ll never go to jail. If this was South Korea maybe.
But Trump’s mental jail is he lost getting re-elected and by in his head…”slim margins.” So yes, the more he suffers the better. He is a cruel sociopath who deserves any form of punishment that actually makes him feel pain.
Seems Biden already signaled he’s not interested in pursuing cases against Trump. That’s a pity.
Because if it was the other way around sociopathic Trump won’t have any qualms about knocking him down.
Excerpt from Goldberg’s article in the NYT
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The first is what we might call the psychopath’s advantage: Prosecutors would have to prove that Trump knew that what he was doing was wrong. “You’re not dealing with your ordinary fraudster or your ordinary criminal or even your ordinary corrupt politician,” said Bromwich. “He seems to believe a lot of the lies that he’s telling.”
There’s also the sheer political difficulty of prosecuting a former president. “My guess is that in the weeks and months that a prosecutor takes to develop a case like that, they’re at the end of the day going to say, ‘The guy’s not in office, nothing happened, we’re not spending our resources on it,’” the Republican election lawyer Benjamin Ginsberg told me. “Which doesn’t take away from the really immoral nature of the call.”
Taken on their own, most excuses for not investigating or prosecuting Trump make at least some sense. Launching an impeachment less than three weeks before Biden’s inauguration might appear futile.
It could even feed right-wing delusions by creating the impression that Democrats think Trump might be able to stay in office otherwise.
Both the Biden administration and Democrats in Congress will be fully occupied dealing with the devastation to public health and the economy that Trump is leaving behind. Beyond its legal challenges, a federal prosecution of Trump would maintain his toxic grip on the country’s attention.
Yet if there is no penalty for Republican cheating, there will be more of it. The structure of our politics — the huge advantages wielded by small states and rural voters — means that Democrats need substantial majorities to wield national power, so they can’t simply ignore the wishes of the electorate. Not so for Republicans, which is why they feel free to openly scheme against the majority.
It’s too late to roll out the impeachment process. There are only 16 days in which to impeach him, then place a guilty decision before the Senate for a vote. But were I in his shoes, I would break precedent and not attend Biden’s swearing in. When Biden’s hand is on that Bible, Trump had best be on or over the ocean. If he stays for Biden’s swearing in, he won’t make it across the White House lawn to the helicopter without being buried in subpoenas, even warrants for his arrest before the echoes fade from Biden’s “...so help me God”.
@stanleybmanly I’ve read rumors that he is planning to leave for Scotland on the 19th. I don’t know if they’re true.
^^Playing golf in Scotland is preferred rather than staying and wailing like the biggest political loser ever.
@mazingerz88 I’d rather have him out of the country on Inauguration Day actually. Less mischief. Scotland’s on lockdown now; doubt they want him.
Countries with No Extradition Treaty with the U.S. 2020 – - (from offshore-protection dot com)
Afghanistan
Algeria
Andorra
Angola
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Belarus
Benin
Botswana
Brunei
Burkina Faso
Burundi
Cambodia
Cameroon
Cape Verde
Central African Republic
Chad
China
Comoros
Congo
Djibouti
East Timor
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Gabon
Georgia
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Indonesia
Ivory Coast
Kazakhstan
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Lebanon
Libya
Madagascar
Maldives
Mali
Mauritania
Moldova
Mongolia
Morocco
Mozambique
Namibia
Nepal
Niger
Oman
Qatar
Russia
Rwanda
Samoa
São Tomé & Príncipe
Saudi Arabia
Senegal
Solomon Islands
Somalia
South Sudan
Sudan
Taiwan
Tajikistan
Togo
Tunisia
Turkmenistan
Uganda
Ukraine
UAE
Uzbekistan
Vanuatu
Vatican City
Vietnam
Yemen
Wow. What a list to choose from. And Scoctland’s not on it. They’ll nab him on the first hole.
Well I guess it’s Turkmenistan for trumpy then!
Most Arab countries will only let you stay for 6 months before you have to leave (and you can’t go right back), and also they require a medical physical. (My brother spent time on business in the area)
But if you bring a bunch of money in diplomatic courier cases you should be all set !
Scotland? The United Kingdom is a poor choice, as is any other place hostage to a cordial relationship with the United States. I would expect Trump to head first to the sorts of places from which he imported his wives.
@stanleybmanly But, but, but…he can play golf at his course in Scotland!
One big sand trap in the Middle East.
@janbb But Scotland is not exactly a place where a process server can have his legs broken without embarrassing consequences.
Today I read that he’s not welcome in Scotland.
I have been expecting him to flee to Moscow since the impeachment started about a year ago.
On the other hand I bet Putin will be less happy to see Trump once Trump is no longer as useful for the campaign of destruction of U.S. institutions (once he is out of office).
@dabbler: I’m sure Trump could rent something somewhere up in SIberia or someplace in Russia, where he’s left alone and out of Putin’s hair.
I don’t think the Russians stupid enough to allow an assured loud mouthed fkup like Trump anywhere near their country. Nope! If and when Trump skips out it will be to some tin pot one man authoritarian dictatorship specializing in harboring other criminal despots fleeing legal retributions.
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