Why do you think CNN found no resources for the story about a missing passenger jet?
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January 9th, 2021
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Thank you. We would be lost without you to “keep you guys informed.”
(Yes, and it is on CNN.)
I got a Breaking News alert about it from (“the failing New York Times”) at 6:40 this morning.
View in browser | nytimes.com
The New York Times
BREAKING NEWS
Indonesia said it had lost contact with a passenger jet after it took off from Jakarta, the capital. More than 50 people were believed to be aboard.
Saturday, January 9, 2021 6:37 AM EST
Indonesia’s Transportation Ministry said that it had lost contact with a passenger jet after it took off from the capital, Jakarta, and flew over the Java Sea.
Four minutes after taking off, Sriwijaya Air Flight 182 lost more than 10,000 feet of altitude in less than 60 seconds, according to Flightradar24, the flight-tracking service.”
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They included a radar map and other info.
(And they managed to do it while reporting other facts about the Beer Belly coup attempt at the Capitol.)
By the way…. Aljazeera has some pretty good coverage of it here . It was a Boeing 737–500.
I’m sure there will be updates all day.
Thanks @crazyguy! I really needed to know. Sure it happens to be on all of the corporate news, including Fox and CNN’s front page. But I prefer to get my news with a conspiratorial flavor from people who are still crying that their preferred candidate lost an election.
What else is going on in the world I should know about?
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~Thanks for that . . . @crazyguy !
I saw the headline in AOL – Huff Post.
So glad you keep us up to date.
@crazyguy Are you trying to be a parody of yourself, or is it just a byproduct of your ideology?
Your efforts of zeroing in on CNN would make trump very happy. You should make sure he knows. Fox could sure use you.
”In order to keep you guys informed…”
I don’t recall asking for this service.
Maj. Gen Bambang….hell of a name!
CNN and Tesla. All right. I understand. I too suffer a bad case of bug up my ass. I believe you have it backwards. As far as I’m concerned, the principal failure of CNN is EXACTLY the opposite of what you claim. I believe it was the duty of every news outlet in this country to rag incessantly on the atrocity which is our illiterate, narcissistic, know nothing psychopath of a President. It should have been a round the clock effort without respite in order that dummies such as yourself have nowhere to turn.
Lies, lies, lies, all to make political points which fall apart.
I see great parallels between @crazyguy ‘s allegations and that of his patron saint, Saint Donald the soon-to-be-Forgotten.
I don’t know why people keep answering his questions. If he is ignored he will eventually just go away.
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I disagree. Cancer does not simply disappear because you ignore it.
I answer @crazyguy because he is such an easy target. He says he doesn’t read what I write and respond because I’m on his ‘ignore’ list. So I can call him out on all of the idiocies and inconsistencies with impunity. Like taking candy from a baby.
But to the point he raised. All of us here are literate and pretty world-savvy. I don’t think we need a self-appointed town crier to make us aware.
All, thanks for your responses.
Of course CNN covered the story, eventually. At the time I posted my question, I did a search for CNN Indonesia, and got no links to the missing plane.
^ Maybe CNN monitors your Fluther account for breaking news they should cover?
@Irukandji I googled “CNN Indonesia”. I forget the exact time but it was just before I posted my question. At that time, it was front-page news on FOX and some other news channels I keep an eye on. CNN had no mention of it.
^ When you don’t know how the internet works.
@hello321 Oh Wise One! Can you please enlighten me?
@crazyguy It works fine for me, but here is a shortened version just in case Fluther's syntax is messing things up for you: link.
@crazyguy: “Oh Wise One! Can you please enlighten me?”
For starters, you might want to consider that you didn’t even do a CNN search. Second, if you wanted to do a CNN site Google-indexed search at some point in the future, the syntax would start with….
site:cnn.com
Then you can filter the results based on time, etc. But I suspect you’re not really asking how to do Google searches, how often web crawlers update, etc. Instead of pretending that you’re open to learning, maybe you could just say admit that this is a game to you.
@hello321 Thank you. I did not know about the site:. So I did a search using site: cnn.com. And I did one with just CNN. The results were IDENTICAL!
The earliest report I found on CNN was at 8:28 am on Jan 9. If you find an earlier report, please do share. The plane went missing at 2:40 pm (Indonesian time) on Jan 9, which is equivalent to 9:40 pm on Jan 8 on the east coast of the US. I saw the news just before posting my Fluther question at 5:30 am (Pacific Time). At that time CNN had not picked up on the story.
So the bottom line is that the whole thing is a non issue.
Why are you obsessed with an Indonesian plane crash?
He’s obsessed about proving CNN is not a credible news source and has lost miserably !
@Dutchess_III: “Why are you obsessed with an Indonesian plane crash?”
Because the flight number – SJ182 – is a code. SJ = Social Justice, as SJW. And if you break down the numbers….
1+2+8 = 11, as in the 11th month (November). And there are 3 digits. November 3rd is when the Social Justice Warriors and Antifa stole the election from Donald Trump.
If CNN wasn’t a radical left-wing anti-capitalist propaganda machine, it would have reported on the crash earlier than 5:28am Pacific Time on Jan 9th! What are they hiding, and why do they hate America?
This conspiracy is even more concerning because when you go to CNN.com, directions on how to do basic searches or how the internet works is nowhere to be found! Sad!
@hello321 Please do me the favor of reading my post which showed that my basic way of searching for Internet stories was the same as yours before you go off on a rant.
^ You still don’t know how, and you don’t care. Like I said, you didn’t even do a search on CNN. Why is it that everyone saw the crash “story” on CNN’s front page as soon as you posted the question? And why did they first start reporting at 5:28am PST and you were unable to see it?
And no, I didn’t go off on a rant, comrade. I just answered the question about why we are so concerned about this plane crash. We need to stick together, brother! CNN and Oprah Winfrey downed that jet! sad.
@hello321 Can you explain the delay between the time of the disappearance of the plane (9:40 pm on Jan 8) and the first coverage on CNN at 8:28 am on Jan 9?
Also, since my search method yields exactly the same results as yours, how can you possibly say: “You still don’t know how, and you don’t care.” I would say you don’t care!”
@crazyguy: “Can you explain the delay between the time of the disappearance of the plane (9:40 pm on Jan 8) and the first coverage on CNN at 8:28 am on Jan 9?”
You mean 5:28am your time (PST), right? Anyway, I did explain why it took CNN, Fox News, and others hours to report on this plane crash: CNN and Sean Penn had downed the plane, and the media had to figure out how to spin this.
@crazyguy You’re digging yourself deeper and deeper !
@hello321 Yes, you did explain. What you did not explain is why FOX and some International news networks had reported on the story much earlier than CNN.
Priorities? What is the big freaking deal? If you don’t like CNN don’t rely on it for your news. Simple.
I don’t understand why our 2 Trumpsters are so pathological and frantic about “searching” for the news. I mean there’s no rational discernment to it. They just pile up information and weight it all equally. And it’s all stuff collected exclusively from the net. I wonder if either of them has ever seen an actual newspaper or English publication or for that matter, ever set foot on American soil.
@stanleybmanly I think it’s because there is no substance to their arguments that they can defend, and they need something else to rail at.
It’s a technique used by Trump, their fuehrer, for the last 4–5 years. When there is no truth to what they’re saying, the bitch about the media and how the news is fake.
It’s right out of the deflect-and-lie-because-we-can playbook.
CNN aka Conspiracy Nuts’ Network
@crazyguy: “What you did not explain is why FOX and some International news networks had reported on the story much earlier than CNN.”
That’s because:
a) They did not. This has been proven multiple times to you, but you do not care, or are incapable of math/time.
b) It wouldn’t have mattered if they did.
@hello321 One good thing about me is that I do read all the responses to my question. Your (b) says it all.
@crazyguy: “Your (b) says it all.”
At least you admit you were wrong. Finally.
@crazyguy I think this might be less confusing for you if we use 24-hour time and translate everything into Coordinated Universal Time (UTC). This places all of the relevant events within a roughly six hour window on 9 January 2021 (since that day had already started relative to UTC) and produces the following timeline:
7:40 UTC: Plane goes down
10:17 UTC: FlightRadar24 reports the crash
10:38 UTC: CNN Indonesia reports the crash
11:11 UTC: CNN Indonesia posts a follow up story with statements from officials
11:28 UTC: The Associated Press reports the crash
11:29 UTC: Earliest possible time for the Fox News article you linked (see below)
13:28 UTC: CNN World starts posting live updates
The Fox News article you linked does not have a precise time stamp. It includes a tweet from the Associated Press, however, so it cannot have been written prior to that tweet. In the timeline above, I am extremely generous and assume that Fox News reporters are so skilled that they can write and post a report in one minute. To the extent that this is unrealistic, the time of the Fox News article must be pushed later in the day.
In any case, you say that you saw the article just before you posted this question at 5:30 Pacific Time (13:30 UTC). This would, of course, be around the same time that CNN World started posting its live updates (5:28 Pacific Time / 8:28 Eastern Time / 13:28 UTC). So while Fox might have posted its story before CNN World starting posting live updates, you actually have no evidence one way or the other. And in any case, the Fox News article was posted nearly an hour after the first CNN Indonesia report.
P.S. When @hello321 says “it wouldn’t have mattered if they did,” he means that you wouldn’t have reacted any differently because you do not form your opinions on the basis of things like facts and evidence. By saying “your (b) says it all,” you are conceding—perhaps unwittingly—this assessment of your mindset.
@Irukandji You are basically calling me a liar. That is ok. I have been called much worse.
I’ll repeat what I said earlier. Almost every morning, I check CNN.COM and FOXNEWS.COM. It is normally just a routine, where I may get past the headlines on one or two stories. However, on Jan 9, I clicked on FOXNEWS.COM expecting the same non-news I had just seen on CNN. However, when I saw the report about the missing plane, I did a double take and went back to CNN. No mention. So I did a Google search for CNN missing plane Indonesia, and got zilch. I was surprised and submitted my question.
@crazyguy No, I am saying you’re wrong (which isn’t the same thing as saying you’re a liar). There are all sorts of possible explanations for why you ended up being wrong, such as confirmation bias, motivated perception, or my original hypothesis that you’re just not very good at searching. But the important thing is the facts, and the facts are laid out in the timeline I posted above.
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