Do you think "White Victimology" is a valid concept?

“Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” -Martin Luther King, Jr.

I honestly have no clue! (I’m too young for this question, but they say “you’re never too young”!) I honestly feel she might be talking about it though.
I did some research:
If you get a chance, today or perhaps tomorrow, do yourself a favor. Look up some file footage, perhaps on YouTube, of Adolf Hitler, addressing his followers. I know, it doesn’t sound like the best way to spend your day, or even a few minutes of it, but trust me, there’s a point to the recommendation. While you watch, notice the unhinged shouting, the wild eyes, the veins on his neck, the psychotic bodily gesticulations. Then, take a look at footage from yesterday’s town hall meeting, called by President Obama in New Hampshire, in which he sought to lay out his case for health care reform to an audience that included supporters and opponents of his plan. Notice: no shouting, no wild eyes, no bulging jugular vein, no apparent sociopathy whatsoever. Indeed notice as the President actually seeks out questions from people who disagree with him, and then thanks them for making good points and raising legitimate concerns, even when the premises of their questions are dead wrong, and largely originated in crazy town.

Then ask yourself, is this the man that much of right-wing talk radio would have us believe is a Nazi? The political reincarnation of Hitler–ya know, the lunatic I asked you to watch first? Really? Really? Wow. Sometimes, it’s hard to know where to begin.

http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/08/12/sick-heil-racial-paranoia-white-victimology-and-the-hitlerizing-of-obama/
Above here is the link to the whole article!

I don’t know about the ”-ology” part, which usually means “the study of.” Victimhood, maybe?

What you read on twitter or on any social media platform for that matter is pure propaganda. ‘This’ side will take a wide brush and fill the entire canvas with vitriol and the ‘other’ side will do the same. It doesn’t matter which side you’re on, if you place your trust on social media for you daily dose of info, you’re done.

That said, I do think that there are people who still think that good ol’ days were a lot better but their numbers are minuscule and insignificant. To paint the entire segment with the same brush, is just as bad as denying that such people exist. It is time for all of us to wake to reality and stand up to systematic propaganda.

I don’t get it. The study of white victims? Is that a thing? I never heard of it. Maybe victimization or victimhood?

I agree there are some Trumpers who want to be racist out in the open and Trump helps them do it, but I think most Republicans don’t want to do that. They don’t feel they are racist and don’t want to be racist and so the last thing they do is use the n-word. They do everything they can to overcompensate. In most cases they are practically void of acknowledging race or ethnicity in public. Some truly are not racist. Some are, but don’t understand or see their racism.

@JLeslie I agree with you. It sort of confused me. I think google is the only person who might know this, other than the victims?

I can’t think of anywhere in the world where whites are discriminated against because of their whiteness so I can’t really take “white victimology” seriously.

I imagine that in some very well delineated areas, whites can make a point that they are discriminated against. Take admissions to a HBCU for example, or maybe entry to a historically black fraternity.

Other than those very few instances, the concept of “white victimhood” is bullshit. It’s an invented concept to rationalize their racism.

No more than black victimology. No, not valid.

That is the most ignorant statement I’ve just about ever heard. I guess everyone gets to just state rubbish and be called a journalist now. It’s exhausting.

Some people of every color or race are indeed victims, of course no one is immune but I’d be loathe to use the term you did.

I don’t think it’s about no longer being able to be openly racist but I think there is “white resentment” among some re. the fact that society is no longer “for” white people the way it once was. White people are no longer “at the top” by default and that may unnerve some. (Not to mention the fact that the country will be majority non-white in a few decades). So while I do think there is some white victimhood and resentment out there (I’ve come across people who genuinely believe straight white men are the most oppressed demographic), I don’t think this quote has it right.

@flutherother For the last 6 years (except last year) I went to (Oahu, Molokai, Maui and the Big Island 2 and 3 times per year. I go there to paddle in Hawaiian outrigger canoe races with various teams. My team mates there love me because I’m a good strong paddler not because my skin is so white that I have to keep every inch of it cover to protect against the powerful Hawaiian Sun.

However when I’m away from the club just walking down the sidewalks I’ve been laughed at, called obscene names in Samoan, also Hawaiian Pidgin talk like, “Yu Haole Fuk ka”.
Why? Because my skin color isn’t brown enough. I just ignore it, have fun paddling and get the out of there as fast as I can.

When I lived in San Francisco in the 90’s I learned not to go jogging in certain parts of the Mission District. Had glass bottles hurdled at me 3 or 4 times and one time a black man slugged me. I just asked him, “Why?” No answer. Then I saw 4 other black men approach so I just turned and ran while glass bottles shattered around me. My running buddies in SF who had brown skin never had problems running anywhere in the city.

There are racist people of all colors. There’s no excuse for their ugly behavior.

They are talking about reduction in benefits and privilege. If they had more than an equal share, equality results in a loss for them.

@gondwanalon I agree there is no excuse for that type of behaviour but it can happen anywhere. It’s unpleasant but it’s in a different category from institutionalised racism.

I’ve never heard the term ‘White Victimology’—but in the paragraph you re-posted, Joy Reid is just doing her typical hate-Trump rhetoric. It has nothing to do with white ‘victimology’.

This is Joy Reid doing her part for the establishment: trying to shift the conversation away from policies that increase wealth/income inequality to culture war race wedge issues.

I have read stories of white people claiming they get cheated out of a job because of “affirmative action”. They claim less qualified non-whites were favored. I don’t know of any first-hand.

@YARNLADY – you hear a lot of that for college admissions too.

To the privileged, equality feels like oppression.

White and male resentment are the core of Trumpism and have been core Republican values for decades. It accelerated with the voting and civil rights of the mid-1960s and became the party’s backbone under Reagan.

How can you possibly have Affirmative Action without denying some more deserving candidates a place?