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To our right wing fans, is the voter suppression legislation in Georgia good or bad in your opinion?

Asked by SQUEEKY2 (23474points) April 4th, 2021

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SQUEEKY2's avatar

I really want your opinion on this.

seawulf575's avatar

There is no voter suppression legislation in Georgia. I read the bill you are probably referring to and it looks like it makes things fair across the board, ensuring all people can vote, but stealing votes or adding votes will be a lot tougher.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Hey! Hi wulfie long time no see, then why is it illegal to bring food or drink to people waiting in line??

seawulf575's avatar

I also know that a lot of lies have been put forth about this bill. The Atlanta Constitution-Journal, THE premier paper in ATL stated that it limited voting hours. They had to print a correction that said they were wrong, that the voting hours were actually the same as they ever were and that experts who looked into the bill said it actually expands the opportunities for people to vote. Biden didn’t care and actually echoed the claim of limiting hours, a claim for which the Washington Post gave him four pinocchios.
As for the food and drink claim, I looked through the bill and could find nothing on it. Please, feel free to look yourself and correct me if I’m wrong. Tell me what line(s) in the bill it comes from.

hello321's avatar

^ Why not look through the actual bill? Check out section 33 for your drink references.

flutherother's avatar

I notice it says “voting shall be conducted during normal business hours beginning at 9:00 A.M. and ending at 5:00 P.M. on weekdays”. How are you supposed to vote if you are working 9:00am to 5:00pm? Voting here commences at 7:00am and doesn’t finish until 10:00pm.

seawulf575's avatar

@hello321 Thank you. I didn’t see it when I looked through it. But if you look, the limitation applies to soliciting votes. You can’t run a candidate support booth and hand out snacks or water. That really isn’t unusual for most voting locations. You can’t campaign within so many feet of the polling station, you can’t walk up and down the line handing out campaign materials, etc. That isn’t to say you couldn’t set up a free food and drink stand without any advertisements and conversations about candidates. But I’d check with the station supervisor first!

seawulf575's avatar

But, @hello321 I did notice on the citation you supplied the title of the document was The House Special Committee on Election Integrity offers the following substitute to SB 202 What I supplied was House Bill 316 (AS PASSED HOUSE AND SENATE) So one of the proposed ones had this limitation but as I said, I couldn’t find anything about it in The Actual Bill.

seawulf575's avatar

@flutherother It doesn’t say that. It says voting shall be held during normal business hours on weekdays, and shall be conducted on the second Saturday prior to a primary or election during the hours of 9:00 A.M. through 4:00 P.M.. The limited hours are only on Saturdays. It does say that if there are no federal or state candidates on the ballot there does not have to be mandatory Saturday voting.

Lightlyseared's avatar

The problem with the bill is that it seems perfectly reasonable at first glance to someone who doesnt care less but that it has the potential to target and prevent a very specific group of people voting in a very insidious way.

hello321's avatar

@seawulf575 – You were complaining that the drink part wasn’t in the bill. But you know that everyone and their grandmother is talking about SB202, which passed (didn’t it?).

seawulf575's avatar

@hello321 As I said, you posted SB202, but it is titled as only a proposal. I posted House Bill 316 which says it was passed by the House and the Senate. I suspect everyone is talking about the wrong bill.

seawulf575's avatar

@Lightlyseared Or maybe it seems perfectly reasonable at first glance because it is and only seems to potentially target and prevent a very specific group of people to those that don’t want honest elections. We are seeing a perfect example of the Democrat propaganda machine. The media puts out a lie and then repeats it again and again until normal people start to believe it. But this one got nipped in the bud, though I have to hand it to Biden, he is clinging to the lie to the bitter end.

hello321's avatar

@seawulf575: “I suspect everyone is talking about the wrong bill.”

That’s unfortunate. Please tell Kemp! The entire nation, including Kemp, believes this whole conversation is about SB 202.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@seawulf Handing out water from a non-partisan group is far different than water from a candidate, which is definately against the law here at polling stations.
Also I’ve never heard of voting on Saturdays, interesting.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

So we know wulfie is all for this legislation not surprised at that at all, how about others right wingers what is your take on this?
Up here employers have to give time to any employee that needs to vote, with no penalty at work is that the same for down there?
What I got out of the no food or drink in line clause was NO one could provide people in line with food or drink not even relatives or friends, please tell me I am wrong about that.

Patty_Melt's avatar

I have not read the bill, but I have heard a lot of conversation. One thing I feel we should make clear is ID. Voter ID is free in GA.

I haven’t heard of any aspect of the bill which limits anyone legally eligible to vote. I have heard complaints, but about things not understood.

seawulf575's avatar

@KNOWITALL I understand that, however if the non-partisan group members actually discuss the election while they are handing out the water, it becomes electioneering. That is why I would suggest that any non-partisan group actually check with the polling station supervisor prior to doing anything.

JLeslie's avatar

I just read this: The new Republican voter suppression laws are not a response to election fraud, they are a response to election turnout.

Not having Saturday voting is a problem. Not having evening voting is a problem. Since most states, maybe all, do not obligate employers under law to give an employee time off for voting, then voting has to be extremely accessible to be fair. We have Republicans saying people should work 2 and 3 jobs if they have to, then when the hell are poor people going to vote? Unless, we make mail-in accessible to all, then that might be arguably an alternative, but Republicans are attacking that too.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

@JLeslie The Rep/cons have tp attack the lower class and make voting hard for them because the majority of them vote democrat and we can’t have that.

Patty_Melt's avatar

Weekends are included in the EXTENDED time frame.

I would like to see evidence proving Republicans want anyone to work two or three jobs. Of course, they may have to since the MLB made that move from Atlanta to Denver. That crushes Georgia revenue.

JLeslie's avatar

@Patty_Melt I have people all over my Facebook saying they got a higher wage because they asked for it or wouldn’t accept less or had to work two jobs when they were young and basically saying it’s normal to be paid a crap wage or have to work two jobs so stop complaining. All these people are white Republicans.

It reminds me of parents saying they dragged themselves out of bed at 6:00am for school and their teenager can too, but the difference is now we have tons of data saying teenagers do much better academically if they start later, but these parents don’t care, they want their kids to suffer like they suffered.

We can actually make the country a better place if we want to.

Plus, being able to get a better wage is impossible in small towns with little opportunity or racist cities where a Black person can’t even get hired easily.

Even I have said expecting to make enough right out of school to live alone seems a little unrealistic in many cities, I lived with roommates, most of my friends did, but we still made way more than minimum wage.

Patty_Melt's avatar

Lots of rhetoric, no proof, and nothing to do with the original question, regarding voting improvements in Georgia.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Voting improvements in Georgia?
You really think they are improvements?

Patty_Melt's avatar

Let me offer links to answer that for me @SQUEEKY2

Georgia governor interview, CNBC.

Black conservative unfolds the items in the bill. Mr. Logan is not from Georgia, but he does live in the deep south. Here he addresses the accusations against the bill.

Jericho Green is a bit passionate, but he speaks truth.

So, the governor clarifies what’s in the bill.
A couple of YouTubers peel back the layers to make clear what the specific details are, and include opinion.

On this and more I made my statement above.

That thud you heard was my mic drop.

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