Do you prefer the Southern border now or under the previous administration?

I prefer it now. Much less Gestapo like action by ICE and CBP.

The number of “encounters” is off because under Trump, refugees were not given the time of day and were repelled.

We are not at abnormally high unemployment, I see “help Wanted signs all over Northern California. What we are missing are good paying jobs.

Minors are crowded in unhygienic conditions because of reluctance to fund decent facilities by the GOP.

In the midst of a COVID pandemic, 40+% of Republicans refuse to get vaccinated.

Remember, @crazyguy, no one is illegal.

Borders are violence.

Better managed? It would appear the conservative courts believe the border “better managed”. As it would seem most conservatives agree. There has not been a single challenge to Biden’s policies upheld by a court that I can recall. Whereas the previous President was admonished and reversed by the courts regarding border issues as a matter of daily routine.

Nothing has really changed.

I prefer it now too. My main concern (in addition to what @zenvelo and @stanleybmanly wrote about) is halting the construction of a physical barrier which would strangle wildlife.

For me, the great failure with the idea of the wall as our solution is that it is but one BIG and OVERPRICED physical manifestation of shallow thinking. After some 2300 years of fixed fortifications, the labors of 5 Chinese dynasties, Hadrian’s wall, the Maginot line right up through the travesty in Berlin, the idea that a wall is going to solve or eliminate the pressures on our borders is but an open ruse to soothe the fears of none but the truly feeble minded. You would suppose that others who manage through wealth or influence to buy their way around the barriers to entry here might reflect on the fact that those less entitled might share their ambitions and in fact are probably more deserving of them for THAT very reason. But regardless of any justification, the wall is but a monument to the current paucity of intellect.

They have the dog crates at the South border too?

The wall is of no value because there are places where a wall cannot be built. So the whole point of a wall is moot.

Not to mention airplanes, boats, and roads.

Also it’s not illegal for most Central and South Americans to enter the USA by normal means, saying they are just visiting. Even a magic force field at the border wouldn’t prevent people who enter legally from not leaving.

@Zaku You are absolutely correct. Visitors may indeed come from Central and South American countries. The one significant difference between such illegals and the border crossers is that we at least have some information on the visitors.

@kritiper Your statement reads to me like: “A burglar alarm system is useless because there are ways to defeat it.”

@rebbel Not sure what you mean.

@zenvelo Much less Gestapo like action by ICE and CBP. Yessir, no need. The welcome mat is out.

The number of “encounters” is off because under Trump, refugees were not given the time of day and were repelled. I think you meant up instead of off. Now refugees are welcomed to break our laws.

We are not at abnormally high unemployment, I see “help Wanted signs all over Northern California. What we are missing are good paying jobs. You will see most of the available jobs filled by September when the federal subsidy on unemployment compensation runs out.

Minors are crowded in unhygienic conditions because of reluctance to fund decent facilities by the GOP. Without a source, this statement is just a punt by you.

In the midst of a COVID pandemic, 40+% of Republicans refuse to get vaccinated. Another punt. And totally unrelated to the subject at hand.

@crazyguy The wall could not be built along the Rio Grande for obvious reasons. You can’t build it on the Mexican side, and if you build it on the US side you cede the land on the Mexican (along the river) side to Mexico.
Also, there is a indian reservation that straddles the border and these indians do not recognize the government of either Mexico or the United States, and a wall cannot be built across their land.
Any person can simply walk around the wall at these points.

@kritiper Wherever the WALL cannot be built for physical reasons, the CBP can move in reinforcements. By the way is Biden still continuing wall construction? (see https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/05/21/texas-land-eminent-domain-order-biden-valencia-vpx.cnn)

@crazyguy You forget about the indian reservation?? Those Indians won’t let the CBP in. The US government has no right to occupy their land.
And the CBP would have a heck of a time operating in the middle of the river. And you would have them operate along the entire length of the river??

Don’t get me wrong, I am not against construction of a wall. I’m just saying that there are areas where it cannot be built.

@kritiper I am glad to hear of real problems with the wall, especially from people who have no political axe to grind.

At the Indian reservation, if we have to, we can volunteer to help them guard the border that runs through their lands. Alternatively, we can treat the reservation border with the remaining part of the US, as an international border and guard it accordingly.