@product ”...but if we’re not putting everything we have to make a true global effort to eradicate this (and future viruses), this performative dance that we’re all taking part in (masks, no masks, vaxxxxx, no vaxxxxxxxx, etc) is an exercise in self-righteous bullshit.”
I agree that we should be making a full global effort to eradicate Covid-19. I disagree that mask wearing and encouraging vaccination is a “self-righteous” “performative dance.” Reducing the R value of the virus is how we eradicate the virus.
But I’m not going to pretend that I deserve an award in “patriotism” for doing so (still can’t believe that).”
That’s a mischaracterization of my statement. I said being anti-masker and anti-vaxxer is unpatriotic. That’s different from saying people who wear masks deserve awards.
Patriotism isn’t the driving force behind my actions, but it’s an argument tailored to the audience. When a MAGA guy thinks he’s a patriot, who loves America, the economy and freedom tries to make the case that vaccines and masks are anti-American, I’m going to point out that a real patriot would do their part to try to accelerate the eradication of the virus instead of helping it spread and persist, hurting America, the economy, and diminishing freedom for longer as a result. Again, not my primary motivation (preserving humanity globally), but motivations that may resonate with the MAGA crowd.
@crazyguy “If you wish to triple mask, be my guest. However, by the same token, please do not force me or anybody else to do the same.”
I don’t think anyone’s advocating universal triple masking. We are advocating for people to using simple precautions while this thing is still an active threat.
Do you feel responsible for the particles you emit into the public? Do you believe in personal responsibility? If you happen to be the “infinitesimally unlikely” person who gestates the mutated strain that is more lethal, transmissible and vaccine resistant, how do you expect to compensate the people of the world? Or do you think people should not be held accountable for their actions? Any one of us could create trillions of dollars of cost, and kill millions of people around the world. What you’re doing is transferring that risk onto other people. And nobody knows what that risk really is. They can guess and make predictions based on data, but anyone doing so will tell you that any predictions would have a large error bar.
How low is the risk? Here’s an example: a 0.00000000003422313% chance sounds unlikely right? Pretty much 0, right? That’s the odds of winning the Mega Millions. So nobody ever wins the lottery right? Well we both know that’s not true. Infinitesimally low odds are only negligible when there’s only 1 opportunity to “win” (i.e. 1 ticket sold). When you have a virus like COVID-19 with a high replication rate and the potential to spread through a population exponentially, those “infinitesimally unlikely” odds start to look much less infinitesimal. When the potential downside is something really horrible (such as the potential for something like a near-extinction event in a worst-case scenario), we should be taking things much more seriously.
Just to further beat a dead horse and drive the point home, here’s a thought experiment:
Let’s say some hacker managed to write a program that would detonate all of the world’s nuclear weapons simultaneously. He rigged this up to buttons on a website. Every time someone clicked on the button there was a random number generated with an infinitesimally small likelihood that it would match some predefined number. If that happens the weapons detonate. If someone said, “I want to click the button. If you don’t want to, you don’t have to. The odds of it going off are infinitesimally low. It’s tyranny for anyone to try to tell me I can’t click the button. I have the freedom to do what I want.” how would you respond to them?