This is the COVID AMA thread I really didn't want to do.

What is your opinion on getting vaccinated for women trying to get pregnant? My friend is in that situation and her doctor told her not to get the shot.

Do you anticipate they will lower the age limit for the vaccine?

Why are people not getting vaccinated ,has this as well as most become political as well?
even if you have had C19 get the shot.

@JLeslie It’s a thread to AMA as Jake said.
@anniereborn Absolutely she should get vaccinated. 100%. No doubt
@gorillapaws I sure as hell hope so.
@SQUEEKY2 Because Trumpists and antivaxxers are now one and the same.

@anniereborn https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/pregnancy.html

Why are people still refusing to vaccinate anyway? After so many things happening and they still don’t want to?

Do they know there are people out there who could kill for a leftover vaccine?

@Mimishu1995 The ones I have seen have just been hesitant and worried about long term effects. I’ve done my best to try to convince them.

How can your response be removed for being off topic, when it’s not even clear what the OP is asking?

@Lonelyheart807 Because the OP author is having a bit of an emotional meltdown right now and can’t formulate a direct question. The OP was getting questions on his old Covid AMA thread and figured he would reset the question so people could ask questions more easily. The OP author acknowledges that the OP was badly written, which is unusual for him, as he is usually quite erudite. If @Lonelyheart807 would have followed the link to the prior thread @Lonelyheart807 would have seen the spirit the OP was meant.

How does this end? Does it end? What’s the general feeling in the medical community? Is this how just what life is like moving forward, or is shit about to get even worse? Is it even possible to stop a virus like this (with the challenge of vaccinating the globe)?

@product I thought it was going to end. Now I despair.

@Caravanfan I don’t know how much it helps but I just want to say we love you and appreciate all you are doing for us and all your patients. I can not even imagine but I bear witness to your pain.

^quiet applause and nodding heads

One of my friends (and she really is a good friend) won’t get vaccinated, and neither will her family, and a bunch of people who are her friends (who I don’t know) who belong to the crowd that claims to have been “harmed” by vaccines, and think the Covid vaccine is basically akin to poisoning people.

She (my otherwise incredibly intelligent and compassionate friend) and a lot of her friends and acquaintances are suggesting that if we just take vitamins and be healthy, we won’t be likely to catch Covid, but if we do, we should be demanding the medicine called Ivermectin, which she is saying is an anti-viral med “secretly” endorsed by Anthony Fauci.

The only information I can find about Ivermecrin is that it is NOT approved for treating or preventing Covid, and that it is mostly used for animals to treat parasites.

Maybe @Caravanfan can shed some light on Ivermectin for us.

@Caravanfan I would tell them to choose between 50% chance of dying and 90% chance of dying. And also there are countries out there who are begging the US to give them literally anything, even scraps of leftovers the US don’t use anymore because either everyone is vaccinated or because it doesn’t meet the US’s standards, and getting that scrap of leftovers to their countries is considered a patriotic act and the pride of the strength of the countries. I hope that will settle them down.

@Caravanfan I don’t have a question for you but I just wanted to say that I have the utmost respect and admiration for everyone who has to work in the medical field and deal with this. For all of your dedication and hard work, THANK YOU.

Through the chatter you have heard among peers how long do medical professionals expect the vaccine to be effective?

On Wednesday the county had the first death since June 1st, two more died yesterday and the “new cases” is climbing.

@Mimishu1995 There are techniques I use for the vaccine hesitant that have been written about. I have to put my own feelings aside and listen

@downtide Thanks

@Blackwater_Park so far immunity has stayed strong. Pfizer has data saying a booster might boost antibodies but nobody knows if that means in fewer cases since cases among vaccinated are so low anyway.

@Tropical_Willie Our count is way higher than that.

@Caravanfan I know. I’m simply voicing my frustration toward people who deny vaccines because of some unfounded “fear”.

Like some jellies here, I’m thankful for your work and I hope things will get better for you.

Do you think they should remove the exception to indoor mask wearing for vaccinated people at this point?

No question @Caravanfan. Just ‘Thank You’ and ((BEAR HUGS)).

virtual, of course

I am sorry Caravanfan but you are incorrect.

Many of those who are now sick HAVE been vaccinated and also many have had both their vaccinations.

Please do your research and you will find that a great many double vaccinated people have still been afflicted with the virus.

The good thing that has come from his is that although the vaccinations cannot prevent those who have been vaccinated from contracting the virus in the vast majority of cases those who have been vaccinated and still contract the virus have a far, far less reaction to the virus and in many cases does nor involve a hospital stay and it is much, much less likely that those who do need to go to hospital will need respiration or intensive care.

Research of this should show you that this is a case.

@Poseidon The OP is an ICU doctor treating covid patients.

@Poseidon 99% of COVID-19 patients that are hospitalized in my state are unvaccinated. Updated last Wednesday.

That is not “Many of those who are now sick HAVE been vaccinated and also many have had both their vaccinations.
It is some vaccinated, have mild symptoms.

@Caravanfan Are you seeing any patients who are kids under 12?

@Poseidon I love being mansplained my own area of expert knowledge. I’ll make this short as I have very little patience right now.

100% of the sick individuals in our hospital are nonvaccinated. 100% of sick individuals in my local neighboring hospital are unvaccinated. 99% of people whhttps://www.coronavirus.cchealth.org/overviewo die of Covid are unvaccinated. The chance of getting covid is over 20X higher if you are unvaccinated.

https://www.coronavirus.cchealth.org/overview

@raum Our hospital doesn’t do inpatient pediatrics.

Can a person be tested for the antibodies after having the vaccine and get an accurate accounting of whether they have had Covid or not? And will that show which Covid they have had?
Thank you for this help, once again. We all had hoped to never need this question again.

No question. Just a big THANK YOU for doing this thread.

@chyna Yes, but nobody really knows what the antibodies really mean. They show you either had a vaccine or had the disease, but don’t show immunity. And you can have the vaccine and not show antibodies and still be okay. So it’s kind of a useless test

@Caravanfan Thanks for doing this again, and I really hope you don’t get much spillover from Sturgis in a couple of weeks.

What is Sturges?

@Caravanfan

Sturgis.

It’s an annual super-spreader motorcycle rally that’s held in Sturgis, SD.

@Brian1946 Ah, right. Well, I live in California. I’m guessing those people wouldn’t be caught dead in California. They think we’re all Communists.

@Caravanfan

I agree. They’ll probably be caught dead somewhere along I15 in Wyoming or Utah. ;-)

Did you already talk about Ivermectin? I want to explain to my anti-vaxxer friend what you know about it.

She is urging people to demand it as a treatment for, and prevention against Covid, instead of urging people to get vaccinated. She claims that Anthony Fauci is sending “coded” messages about Ivermecrin when he discusses anti-viral meds in his interviews. That doesn’t make any sense to me. I think Dr. Fauci has been pretty straightforward regarding his urging people to get vaccinated.

Also, months ago, some folks were talking about monoclonal antibodies that could be given as a treatment at the first signs of Covid, before hospitalization, to prevent having to be hospitalized in the first place, but I have not heard anything about it recently. Can you talk to us about that?

@Caravanfan Well, they do perch in California, and all the Western states, unfortunately. One of the standard routes back to Oregon from Sturgis is detouring to Tahoe, then going west to hit 101 for the ride home. They will likely be spewing their viral loads all over all the Western States. Ugh ugh ugh.

The guy that did my kitchen last year went to sturgis right before doing my kitchen. I was not happy. But I wasn’t here while they worked on it.

@Poseidon Please post links of where you got your statistics. Thanks.

At this point, the initial expectation of 7 years to fully eradicate the virus and mutations is feeling more realistic.
My only question is can you, as an expert, see any way around the vaccines NOT being mandatory at some poont? (Politics aside, I don’t.)

@KNOWITALL I think that it could never become a Federal mandate for all residents. But it certainly could be local mandates such as employers, schools, local governments, etc. Also it could become a Federal mandate such as military, employees, etc.

@Kardamom Sorry, I missed your question about Ivermectin.
It’s useless for Covid.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ivermectin-is-the-new-hydroxychloroquine-take-5-the-nobel-prize-gambit/

@Caravanfan Our doctors here had to issue a statement about Ivermectin, as the rednecks, hippies, and Alt Vaxxers are swarming the feed stores and online to get it.

Conspiracy theorists say it’s cheap and effective so that’s why it’s not being approved for Covid.

@KNOWITALL What is even cheaper (free) and more effective (infinate as ivermectin is useless) is a vaccine.

@Caravanfan Yessir, you know I try to get the info out here but they are firmly determined not to get the shot. They’d rather OD on a cattle medicine, as the dosage is quite different for a human. It’s crazy.

Did you hear they are working on a Covid vaccine pill so more people will take it? On the bbc today.

@KNOWITALL Huh. I didn’t know that. I’m not entirely sure how that would work. An mRNA vaccine certainly wouldn’t work through the gut. I’ll have to ask my daughter about it as she knows about all things vaccine.

@Caravanfan Here’s the article for your down time.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57553602

Oh, it’s an inhaler. That makes more sense. If it were swallowed then the mRNA would be broken down by digestive enzymes.

@Caravanfan Yep, whatever works. I think the powdered version you’d mix with water and inject. Pretty neat.

I know our American friends will not like this comment but as several of you appear to be criticising my answer I feel I must comment.

One subscribers tells me I should post links but I feel it should not be necessary if they are keeping up with Covid current events.

Another subscriber is giving details which concern the USA alone. with respect to this subscriber I feel I should remind them that the USA is not the only country in the world and certainly not the only country affected by this terrible virus, in fact it is a worldwide pandemic.

My answer was mainly concerning Britain who is one of the leading countries with regard to the number of citizens who have had double vaccinations.

I agree that even in Britain some who have been double vaccinated have contracted the virus and in a very few cases some have unfortunately died.

Thankfully most of those who have had the double vaccine in Britain but who have contracted Covid have been affected far less.

@Poseidon I think you may be taking the criticism of your post the wrong way. And this is primarily a US user site, so it tends to be less about other countries. I would love to expand it to other countries so people like you can help expand our knowledge of YOUR situation’s elsewhere.

If I may explain, there is a huge group of people in the US who refuse the vaccine and end up dying, including children. We (many Americans and doctors and govt) are trying to get those people to stop listening to gossip without scientific backing, or neighbors or random’s on the internet and ONLY listen to doctors.

Since @Caravanfan is a legit doctor treating Covid patients, we generally yield to his greater knowledge regarding this particular subject. So anyone contradicting his professional expertise, is usually asked to provide links. That way we stick to facts and not hearsay or gossip.

Here is the link to an article regarding fully vaccinated dying in the UK. Very interesting and thank you for bringing it up.

https://www.deccanherald.com/international/world-news-politics/most-covid-deaths-in-uk-are-among-fully-vaccinated-should-it-worry-you-1009214.html

@Caravanfan I saw a doctor’s interview yesterday saying that if nurses and staff are walking because they work in healthcare and don’t believe in the science, they should find a new profession.
I guess some are walking to prove we need them, which of course we do, but we need them healing people not killing people. It’s an interesting situation.
We still have one hospital here that made it mandatory and one that did not.

@KNOWITALL Don’t let the door hit them on the ass on the way out.

^Amen

In my county we have:

- 15% positivity rate for COVISD-19 tests

- 38% fully vaccinated

- 98% of people in stores are unmasked (unmasked only if you are fully vaccinated)

- new case per day, which is like mid July and mid October last year

- last week 12 out of 13 people in ICU were were unvaccinated

- last week was first death toll since June 1st (two more last Friday)

- they are driving in reverse at 80 miles an hour.

@Tropical 60 deaths in the last two weeks here. Reported 8/4/21. I hope it stays low there.

@KNOWITALL I’m afraid the numbers will only increase because of the unvaccianted !

These unvaccinated is it political why they don’t get the jab, or are they scared of it for some other reason?

Some of the unvaccinated are right wingers . . . but not all.

@SQUEEKY2 It’s difficult to explain because there are so many factors.
Lack of confidence in government is a huge obstacle.

Healthcare workers are refusing it and saying we are stupid for getting it. They leave their jobs to avoid it.

Its not FDA approved thus to some it’s dangerous.

Some people here are naturalists that would rather just get Covid and take their chances. We have a lot of these people.

Some religious people call the vaccine the mark of the beast.

The real problem is that these Alt people truly believe these things and no one they trust is telling them otherwise. Not Fauci, Biden, Trump or anyone else they will trust.

Personally my friends and I have changed some minds with answering questions. We’ve given out masks instead of mocking people. It’s really hard when the medical community is at war with eachother instead of in solidarity to fight this virus. Erodes trust.

If you need more, check out tiktok.com, you“ll see so many doctors and nurses scaring people it’s sickening. #vaccine is how you’d search them. But prepare to be astonished, it’s hard to watch.

@Caravanfan I flew home on Tuesday from SFO. Feeling a little wonky today, dry mouth and headachey. I think it’s mainly jet-lag and insomnia but should I quarantine a bit or take a rapid test?? I was very careful while away of course.

By the way, my DIL is a NP at Stanford, on the heart surgery floor. They are being flooded with Covid patients now who need to have ECMOs (sp?). I am so sorry you all are going through this again!

@janbb You can get a covid test at Walgreens for 20 bucks if you want to be sure. Instructions on it are a little finicky but easy enough to understand.

@Caravanfan Is that a home test you’re talking about?

@canidmajor Yes. They’re only really useful if you’re symptomatic as they are antigen tests. But you can do it at your kitchen table.

@Caravanfan Thanks, good to know!

@flo: @KNOWITALL said she did google your quote and can’t find it. That’s why, since you obvlously have seen a link, everyone would appreciate it if you would please find that link again and post it.

I don’t think COVID-19 is going to end. I think it’s here to stay.

@snowberry I fear you are correct because too many people won’t get the vaccine ,or wear a mask or even social distance.
It is because of these idiots C19 will be here for quite some time and kill a great deal more people in the meantime.

It is always mutating.

Tomorrow will be the day I stop being able to order online. Everything will be locked down and I will stay completely at home for 7 days. My district will provide food for us.

But there has been doubt around the Internet. There is news of a district being left to starve circulating around FB. I don’t see any news talking about it so I can’t comment on it. People are scared they are going to be starved.

The politics is so chaotic right now. I don’t even want to go on the Internet anymore.

@snowberry if enough people get vaccinated the virus will be clamped down and rare so it doesn’t have a chance to mutate.

So @Caravanfan how do we,or you being the health professional convince these antivaxers that it is in their best interest to get vaccinated ?

@mimishu1995. Stay safe! Are you allowed to receive packages in the mail?

@chyna They have banned delivery services now. Now the only service that is allowed on the street is the food delivery service run by the government. My area has a person who volunteers to write down things people need to send it to the mayor everyday, and I’m glad that she lives just opposite our house and we have a relatively good relationship I helped tutor her son and her niece.

@Mimishu1995 I’m so sorry. It sounds very scary. I pray you will be OK. Please keep us informed.

@Mimishu1995 If it ever gets to a point that you need anything and are able to receive it through the mail, please ask. I’ll do whatever I can to get it to you.

Do you have any idea of what the average cost (very gross ballpark) in dollars to health insurance/Medicare for the average unvaccinated covid patient that requires intubation?

@Caravanfan Regarding a booster, I read advice to get an antibody test before and wait to get it if you still have antibodies. Does that make sense to you?

@gorillapaws No clue, but it’s expensive. Once these people are ventilated they are ventilated for a long time

@janbb There is no data to show that antibody tests should be used to guide vaccine therapy.

@Caravanfan So would you get one as soon as it is made available to you or wait til close to a year has passed to get a booster?

@janbb As soon as it’s available to me I’ll be first in line.

^^ Thanks. Good to know. I will too then.

@Hawaii_Jake @chyna thank you so much for your concern. No one in my country could have predicted something like this could happen. How are things in the US? These days all I hear on the news is how much the government is trying to contain the virus. I don’t know much about other countries anymore.

@Mimishu1995 Here in the state of Hawaii, the Delta variant is increasing rapidly, and many unvaccinated individuals are clogging our hospitals. Since we are small islands far from the mainland, this is a crisis. We cannot drive to another city where there are more hospitals. We are averaging 700 or 800 new infections daily. This dwarfs the rates set at the height of the pandemic before Delta. Our ICUs are full. There is now no room for people who have heart attacks or accident injuries.

We have good vaccination rates here. 60% are fully vaccinated, and close to 70% have had at least one shot. The people being hospitalized are overwhelmingly unvaccinated.

@Caravanfan Two questions:

1. Are you seeing increases in vaccinated covid patients in the hospital and in ICU? I know of so many here, but I am in a unique situation since so many are older where I live.

2. Above you said the antibody therapy doesn’t work, but my mom had some friends that it appeared to have worked well (maybe they would have only been sick a few days anyway) and I had read it was showing efficacy, which was why I was wondering your opinion.

More recently it is approved for prophylactic use in high risk people who have been exposed to covid. I just came across this page from the Florida Health Department about the treatment. So, do you still maintain it isn’t helping? Or, is it not helping your patients because it’s too late by the time they are sent to you. From what I understand the antibodies need to be given near the beginning of symptoms. Has your ER been giving it to patients?

So we got a notice today that our kid in middle school was exposed yesterday (first day of school).

All six classes were tested (except for those who declined) today. The results will take 24–48 hours.

Though my neighbor who is a nurse (who administers covid tests), says she recommends that her patients wait 4–5 days from exposure to get tested.

In the meantime, the district is allowing everyone to keep attending class. I understand they can’t shut down a classroom with every positive result.

Though testing the day after exposure seems like a waste of resources. Maybe it would make sense in the middle of the year. To catch ongoing exposures. But seeing at how it was the first day, that seems kind of pointless.

My question is this…does testing today (the day after exposure) make any sense?

If it takes four days to get results and all the students are going to class for those four days (x6 classes each kid), how can testing inform us who and how to quarantine?

@JLeslie 1) No. Everybody admitted is not vaccinated

2) Yes, there is a lot of money being poured into this, isn’t there? No, it doesn’t do squat. All it does is line the pocketbooks of the drug companies. It might have some small effect in keeping people out of the hospital. Maybe.

@raum No, testing a day later makes no sense. It should be 3–4 days after exposure.

@Caravanfan, when even some intelligent and educated people of good will with no medical contraindications oppose covid vaccinations, have you seen anyone offer a cogent reason for rejecting them? Not valid reasons, but reasons that make some kind of logical sense or have some potential (if not actual) reasonableness to them. Reasons that one might have to respect even while disagreeing. Reasons that warrant a response other than infuriated disgust.

I have a few friends who fall into the intelligent-and-educated antivaxxer, antimasker camp, and I don’t even dare ask them why. I’m afraid it would end our friendship. But I would like to think they haven’t just gone stupid or nuts. What is a rational reason? Is there any?

Thank you a thousand more times for what you do, both here and out there.

“But I would like to think they haven’t just gone stupid or nuts . . . ”

Or maybe the checked their brains at the door?

@Jeruba Most of all the patients I have run into have just been hesitant or afraid. I’ve been able to talk most of them into it.

If you are able to get a booster soon, would you get it as soon as you can or wait for the 8 months since your second shot? and does it matter if you get the same (Moderna or Pfizer) or not for the booster?

@janbb I am not in favor of the booster shots for normally healthy people. We need to vaccinate the rest of the world first.

@janbb And here is another POV from someone who knows the data way better than I do.l
https://twitter.com/Bob_Wachter/status/1428776871412514821

@Caravanfan I get the worldwide public health concerns and understand the social issues but above you said “as soon as it’s available to you, you’ll be first in line.” If there isn’t a policy change and it’s made available to me, I know I will get it too.

@janbb I think being a doctor who works with covid patients, his level of risk is much higher than your average normally healthy person.

@Caravanfan Ethics aside, have you read anything about how individual decisions about boosters would affect vaccine distribution to the rest of the world?

I’ve been reading a lot of articles about how refusing a booster does not affect the red tape around getting vaccines to other countries.

Am I reading the wrong articles?

@raum I do understand that about @Caravanfan and also have been wondering about your second point.

@Caravanfan – We know that we decided not to allow the world to be vaccinated (see IP law, WTO TRIPS waiver, etc). How do you see the intentionally-limited pro-IP corporate global rollout of vaccines happening? Can it happen in a speed that makes sense? Will we get around to vaccinating much of the world in 2023 (I have heard this is the optimistic estimate)?

What is the ethical hurdle we need to navigate in order to accept a booster, considering that the fact the globe is waiting is a decision the west made and is unlikely (correct me if I’m wrong) to be able to fulfill.

@Caravanfan thank you for the Twitter link. Very informative.

@raum My level of risk is higher, and I’m still not sure if I will get a booster. I am waiting for direction from my local health department (the Health Officer is one of my best friends, my doctor, and one of the smartest people I know). Also @raum I have heard the same thing. If you see the link to the tweetstorm I pointed to he touches on that

@product I have absolutely no idea. I’m not a public health doctor, an epidemiologist, or a policy decision maker. I am simply a family doctor deep in the trenches trying, somewhat unsuccessfully, to keep my head above water while trying to keep people from dying.

@Caravanfan: “I have absolutely no idea.”

Fair enough. I misinterpreted this…

@Caravanfan: “I am not in favor of the booster shots for normally healthy people. We need to vaccinate the rest of the world first.”

…as being a statement on the issue.

This is a useful overview article that references the Bob Wachter from @Caravanfan‘s link as well:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/08/19/1028594715/covid-booster-shots-are-coming-heres-what-you-need-to-know

@product It is a personal opinion only. Subject to change.

So it’s coming up on flu shot time now… How close together would you recommend people get their COVID Vaccine or booster and their Flu shots. I would think that you would not want them at the same time.

@Blackwater_Park No data as far as I know. But get your flu shot as soon as possible. But in terms of what I would do, I would probably wait 2 weeks in between each shot.

@blackwater_park A tip of the hat to your name and your video link. I’m a huge Opeth fan (although I prefer Watershed and later), and I saw Haken on Cruise to the Edge. I sat and had beers with them also, super nice guys.

I just got a Moderna booster.

@janbb Woo HOO!

@Caravanfan Yeah – pretty effing amazing! I wasn’t expecting to get it yet but a friend called to tell me that a local health agency had a booth set up at the city’s farm market. I went down, asked questions and got it. I’m not immunocompromised, just older, but they weren’t restricting it.

I’m going on a road trip to New York state in two weeks so it will be great to have added protection.

@janbb It is likely that everybody will have access to a booster within a month anyway.

@Caravanfan Yeah – I figured it would be in September most likely.

@Caravanfan Do you happen to have information about how the delta variant played out in places where it has been through? I’m wondering if there’s information about how this may resolve itself or be mitigated.

I just read that after Covid you are six times more likely to have erectile dysfunction. Is that true?

^Is trump making excuses again?

▲ Lmao!

haha, I just read this today and it’s the first time I’d heard of it! I thought perhaps it could work with our MANLY anti-vaxxers here. :D

@Hawaii_Jake I’m not really on top of the epidemiology. I don’t have any special knowledge
@KNOWITALL If you read it on the internet it must be true.

@Caravanfan Presumably with the booster, as with the originals, it will be two weeks before whatever boost it is takes effect?

And – are things a bit lighter now in your hospital?

@Caravanfan Everyone here should know me better than that by now. I would never waste your time during a pandemic, sir.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7545238/

@KNOWITALL I was joking. Yes, I’m sure it’s true.

@janbb Nope.

@Caravanfan Thanks, that should certainly be a PSA in the South. :D

I hope this is ok for me to post here. Last night on 60 Minutes (9/5/21) there was a very interesting segment about new treatments in trial phases for covid, RNA research, how research is paid for, and future hopes for being able to stop emerging viruses in their tracks. I figure everyone on this Q would be interested including the OP. Here is a link to the episode if you can’t watch it on demand. I think it was the second story if I remember correctly.

On a side note the Ritchie Boys story was replayed on the same episode and it is a wonderful accounting of German Jews who helps the US effort during WWII. The dad of a friend of mine was a Ritchie Boy.

I’m scheduling an appointment for my kid’s first shot of Pfizer on her birthday. (Best birthday present.)

Should I stick to three week schedule? Or stretch to eight weeks to maximize protection against delta?

I do not have concerns about forgetting and missing second dose. Though I have concerns of having a larger window where they are not fully protected. Though we do live in an area with very high rates of vaccination.

Thoughts?

Stick with schedule of three weeks, I’m not a doctor.

If a different period worked better I think Pfizer would change the three weeks.

@Tropical_Willie

UK

Canada

Research paper.

@raum Any guidance from your pediatrician?

@raum Just get the second shot any time after 3 weeks

@janbb I haven’t yet asked our pediatrician. Though I did shoot an email to UCSF.

@Caravanfan Thanks!

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Is… that… the… best… you… can… do… vaccineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…......

@Mimishu1995 That’s great! I didn’t realize you had not been vaccinated yet. Did the side effects stop now? It’s 6:30 in the evening where you are, probably you still feel like crap.

@Mimishu1995 Curious, which shot did you get?

Oops, I didn’t realize this was the @Caravanfan thread. Sorry for my post. We have so many covid threads going I wasn’t paying attention.

@JLeslie @canidmajor thank you. I got AstraZeneka I hope I spell it right. Right now I’m in bed with a 39.5 degree Celsius fever. But strangely I’m not as tired as I should be. I have stopped feeling cold now, now I’m just really hot.

At dinner table I only managed to eat very little solid food so I tried to make up for it by eating more digestible food like yogurt. My muscles also hurt. My bottom hurts too :D So I ended up laughing all the way on the dinner table at how absurd my situation is :D

@Caravanfan I see so many things about the booster.if I originally got Moderna, does it matter which booster I get (unfortunately, I am in the highly eligible category by anybody’s standards).

@Mimishu1995 Did you get the shot in your bum? Or just general soreness. Not much AstroZeneca around here so just curious.

@KNOWITALL i just feel sore on the place of the needle. It doesn’t hurt unless I touch it.

Update: I feel cold again. There is a bitter taste in my mouth. Just a few hours ago I thought I was getting better. The muscle soreness has come back.

@Mimishu1995 That’s normal or at least that’s pretty much what I had. Day 3 you should be feeling pretty normal or even later today-if you nap and take it easy. Good job keeping yourself safe! :D

Keep hydrated; lots of water. @Mimishu1995

@Mimishu1995 You’ll feel better in 24 hours. That shows the vaccine is working.

@canidmajor If/when the booster is recomended get whatever booster from whatever initial vaccine you got.

@Mimishu1995 Hooray for science and sore butts!

I’m feeling better now. But right now my heart is racing for no reason. I can’t eat much food and when I eat there is a weird feeling in my throat. Is this normal?

I just read this article. My interpretation is that if one is over the age of 18 and has an underlying condition, she is now eligible to receive a booster if she wants it? Do I have that right?

@gorillapaws Give it a few days to cook. They will come out with more concrete recommendations then.

@Caravanfan How are things at your hospital now? Any better?

@Mimishu1995

“I got AstraZeneka I hope I spell it right. My bottom hurts too :D”

I think it’s spelled AsstraZeneka. ;)

New thread
https://www.fluther.com/228467/here-is-another-covid-ama-thread-that-i-really-dont-want/

@janbb Things are somewhat better but Delta is nasty.

Shit!

I went back to an indoor pool for aquacise today. There were about 20 people in the class and they are not checking vaccination status but most of the people are older and presumably vacced. I had my booster a month ago. Should I feel nervous or ok about going back? (I do walk several times a week but the aquacise really boosts my fitness and mental health.)

^You’ve posted this on an old thread that the doctor may no longer be following. The link to the new thread is a couple of posts above.

^^ Thanks! I copied/pasted it on the newer thread now.