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Help evicting squatting abusive brother.

Asked by Dulcisvolintarious (4points) October 6th, 2021

(Montana eviction question. All names are anonymous and names will be substituted. No real names used.)

My mom lived in a trailer across the street from my other brother we shall call “john”, she let my oldest criminally insane brother “jack” live there, he moved into the back room.

My mom died and left the house to my other brother, “john’ who lives across the street. “Jack” continued to stay there paying nothing. My sister “jane” then moved in, she pays rent and taxes. She is here with her daughter who in 12.

“Jack” has a long history of abuse and violence both sexual and otherwise. He has had multiple convictions under his name and is dodging child support by working under the table. His ex left him due to abuse of both kids. He also molesting my sister when she was little.

“Jack” has been very violent and abusive, turns off the power to the house when he is told to follow rules, threatens people with physical harm, breaks their stuff, threatens towing their vehicles, making the landlord kick him out etc. He is in good graces with the landlord as he is a manipulative and affictatious man.

We 4 all signed an agreement 2 years ago that the home would remain in “johns” name and family would live there.

He “jack” owes 900 dollars in electricity, pays nothing, eats up all the food, wont apply for foodstamps, and continues to work under the table for some guy while continuing to act like he owns the place. He isnt on the lease, the trailer isnt in his name, and the only thing that is? Is the electricity.

We are affraid of violence and harm. He has been told to leave 3 times due to him not following any agreements made and due to his tyrannical nature. He refuses to leave.

We want him out, but don’t want shit busted and people hurt. What can we do to get him out for good? He is getting more aggressive and he has told others he is trying to get the trailer out from under us through the landlord, when its owned by my brother “jack”

We have again sent him notice and told him to leave many times but he won’t. I dont even know how to report his actions as they are all done in a way as to avoid such things, he breaks stuff in rage then claims it wasn’t him. Threatens people and the denies it. Turns off the power then when the cops are in their way? Turns it on and says it never happened. He is a sociopathic person.

What can we do? What steps must be taken? No one wants to be hurt. I am very inexperienced with this and need help getting him out asap.

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10 Answers

seawulf575's avatar

As silly as it sounds, you have to start eviction proceedings. Get an attorney to give you guidance through the process. It likely includes written notifications for a few months followed by the sheriff showing up to escort him out. If he does things like turning off the power or threatening others or (God forbid) molesting a child, then you call the police and have him removed immediately and get a restraining order against him. That way if he wants his stuff he needs to have the police escort him onto the property to get it.

Forever_Free's avatar

If you fear for your safety from anyone, file for a restraining order. Ensure what is going on is documented at a law enforcement level. The rest will slowly evolve out of this one act to protect yourself.

cookieman's avatar

Forget he is your ‘brother’ and follow the good advice above, treating him like any other roommate who did such things.

I’m sorry it’s come to that, but for everyone’s safety, particularly your niece, it’s gotta be done.

(why, if your sister knew about ‘Jack’s’ history and behavior would she move in there with her child?)

Tropical_Willie's avatar

Hire a lawyer, have the Sheriff deliver the notice and be ready for a shit show.

Inspired_2write's avatar

He is working under the table…he can be reported by anyone in secret.

This guy needs a serious wake up call and it will end with him in jail, him running away from responsibilities, or hurting others.

This is a given for sure one of the above will happen…he certainly is on the wrong path in his life and somewhere he will be made to face his behaviour in a court or counsellers office.

Check with a professional counsellor ( it will be worth it ) to determine the best course of action that will be permanent.

The consellor will assist you in the best way to combat this mans immature behavoiur.
Lawyers take years and I bet that he would prolong the legal process anyways.

One major thing is safty for everyone else and courts involved with working under the table..all will catch up to him everntually, it depends on others willing or scared to act as a group to rid yourselves with this dangerous man.

He can run but he can’t hide for long.

Number one is the 12 year old’s safety…if not that child could be taken away buy social services.
I suggest getting that child into safe place ( temp custody) immediately before that dangerous man may burn the whole trailer down and everyone with it.

This is a serious situation which requires forthhought in garnering safety for everyone before acting to have him removed.

KNOWITALL's avatar

My extended family member went through much the same situation and the mother who owned the rental home did threaten to have him evicted. She gave him a date to be gone and he complied as he realized she was serious.

Tough situation but I agree with everyone else that you’ll need to get law enforcement or attorneys involved, or at least John will, if it’s in his name.
Good luck, let us know how it goes!

kneesox's avatar

@cookieman, knowing only what we see here, I’ll take a guess at your Q: Sister thought her presence and that of the 12-year-old daughter would force him to clean up his act and settle down or else leave.

And maybe she also didn’t have much of a choice, depending on where she was living before.

How’s my guess, @Dulcisvolintarious?

I also notice that the OP doesn’t mention whether s/he is a sister or brother and whether s/he is living in the trailer too. But there are the clues with “here”:

She is here with her daughter who is 12.

and “us”:

he is trying to get the trailer out from under us

and the way s/he uses “we.”

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