What sentence will Jussie Smollett get?
Jussie Smollett was just found guilty in 5 of the 6 charges against him for felony disturbing the peace in his efforts to stage a hate crime. He could face up to 3 years in prison and $25,000 fine for each charge. What do you think the actual sentence will be?
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He’ll likely get off with probation.
If he gets some prison time then the “big guy” will commute the sentence down to probation. (Let’s go Brandon).
I have no idea who this “brandon” is, but if you think that biden will insert himself into this case like the Orangutan would have, you are delusional.
3 years and $125,000 fine. No one is clamoring to give him a break except @gondwanalon .
@zenvelo HA! If you think that I’m “clamoring” to give such a racist criminal a break then you’re as “delusional as @ragingloli.
I’m not expecting much. People with wealth have access to a different tier of “justice” in this country.
Probation and $10K fine. He was stupid but I have a hard time seeing him as a hardened criminal. What would the purpose of jail time?
It would make more sense for his sentence to be making publicity spots (using his acting talent) about good behavior. He would have more effect on the world that way.
Disturbing the peace is a misdemeanor, not even a felony. Small potatoes in the criminal scale. Like shouting when you are drunk.
@elbanditoroso “What would the purpose of jail time?”
Reporting false crimes is disgusting behavior because it creates doubt for all cases, most of which are genuine. It makes it harder for genuine victims to get the justice they deserve. I have no problem giving these people harsh sentences.
@gondwanalon You recommend probation and then want your buddy Trump (“the big guy”) to pardon him like he did with other convicted liars/
Oh please @gorillapaws – these aren’t even felonies. These are stupid low-level crimes. Tons of people who have felony convictions aren’t ever sent to jail, and especially not for minor stuff.
Throwing the book at Smollett is ridiculous and vindicitive. Unless there’s a need to throw black, gay men in jail to teach them a lesson.
Is it too early for popcorn?
On the news, they said it’s not likely he will do jail time because prior to this he had a clean record. I am guessing Probation and some community service plus paying back the costs of the investigation, and other fees.
What he has done both outlines and undermines. In a lot of ways.
@elbanditoroso: He was found guilty of more serious crimes than disturbing the peace.
I don’t know, but he deserves jail time. Yes, black gay men who fake hate crimes against themselves and thus increase suspicion of people reporting actual hate crimes deserve to be punished and made an example of. Fuck Jussie Smollett. What an absolute loser.
@janbb I’ll bring some caramel coated popcorn.
I think @zenvelo is basically correct. He will be fined the max for each count, so $375,000 because he has money, and when the courts can get some, they go for as much as they can get.
I think they will possibly sentence him to the three years for each count, but to be served concurrently rather than consecutively. That way it sounds like a lot, max on all, but lets him actually serve very little time. That way, nobody is likely to complain about light sentencing.
However, I would not be surprised if he gets community service, if they consider it amusing to have a celebrity working at Good Will.
It was a completely brainless crime but not without consequences. It wasted valuable police time and it might have impacted on race relations in the country. There should be consequences for Jussie Smollett too, particularly as he hasn’t fessed up and admitted his wrongdoing. I wouldn’t weep any tears for him if he got jail time.
Cut and pasted from NY Times, 12/10/2021:
In addition to his sentencing, Mr. Smollett will soon have to contend with a lawsuit against him by the City of Chicago. In 2019, Chicago officials, upset at the amount of police work that was spent on the case, sued Mr. Smollett to recoup more than $130,000 in costs, but it was put on hold until the resolution of the criminal case.
“The city intends to continue to pursue its lawsuit to hold Smollett accountable for his unlawful actions,” lawyers for the City of Chicago said in a statement on Friday, “and to demand that he compensate the city for costs incurred by the Chicago Police Department which took his false claims of harm seriously.”
@zenvelo I recommended nothing. I just speculated what likely will happen.
FYI: Hunter Biden refereed to his Dad (Joe Biden) as “the big guy” in one of his e-mails on his China deal.
Also for the record, Trump is no buddy of mine. Where in the hell did you get that from. HA!
@gondwanalon What does that have to do with OP question . . . ?
—You’re always right when you’re “Right-Winged” ! Maybe that the answer.”
@Tropical_Willie I already answered the question.
I’m never always right about anything. I’m just one of the hapless minions out there swimming through the slime that is constantly being generated by the far left and far right.
Also I’m no “Right Winger”. According to the “Political Compass” test that I took, I’m in the center of the “right” (Economic Left/Right: 5.0 and Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1:38).
Good health! Stay strong!
He should pay for the manhours wasted in investigating the false claims. Other than that, I do not see what damage he caused that he should legally atone for.
@Demosthenes Please don’t make this a black/white or left/right issue. i think there are enough nuances to it that people all across the political spectrum have varying reactions.
@janbb Unfortunately, it was Smollett that made this a black/white and left/right issue. He claimed he was jumped by white guys as a hate crime. At one point he claimed they had MAGA hats, if I remember right. No way around it…he staged this entire thing and used all the divisions he could find.
@seawulf575 I was talking about the way we react to it not having to be knee-jerk politics.
@janbb I understand. But the entire thing was divisive and purposely so. It isn’t knee jerk politics. Look at most of the answers on this page: His actions are not favorable because of Smolletts actions. @Demosthenes merely showed a link to a group that was still supporting him. To support him is to support divisive lies that stir conflict.
Making divisive lies that stir conflict is not illegal. Otherwise Trump would be in prison.
@LostInParadise Apparently, making divisive lies that stir conflict ARE illegal, when you make those lies to the police.
He did wrong by making the police waste time investigating his false charges. That is what was damaging and what he should be forced to compensate for, not just that he lied to the police.
Yet the crimes were felonies. Apparently your view of justice and the law’s view of justice don’t seem to match up.
Causing the police to waste their time and money should be a felony, but just lying when not under oath in a courtroom should not in and of itself be a felony.
There is a doctrine of no harm, no foul . If the lying does not by itself cause any damage then it is not a crime, immoral for sure but not illegal.
Lying under oath is called perjury, and is illegal but is not often prosecuted.
@LostInParadise In this case, the lying DID cause harm. It cost the city hundreds of thousands of dollars to investigate the lies. On a more esoteric level it also has not put a doubt in people’s minds when an actual hate crime is committed. Not to mention that it caused quite a bit of division in this country because he was claiming his “assailants” were Trump supporters.
Then we are in agreement. It was not the lie in itself that mattered but the cost to the city that resulted from it.
As well as the crimes of lying to the police repeatedly. He staged a fake crime. Having yourself slapped around is not a crime. Putting a noose around your neck is not a crime. To call it a crime against you and to describe your assailants in a manner as to create all sorts of hate and discontent in the country is really pushing it. And to repeatedly tell that same lie to the police so you can get fame and fortune? Yep, a crime.
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