Have you heard about the Flagship Moskva?
The Moskva is/was the Flagship of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. For those of us in the US, it is the ship that told the Ukrainian soldiers on Snake Island to surrender & was promptly told to ef off!!! Well, depending on who is telling the story, the Ukrainian people blasted it with a missile yesterday (Thursday 04/14/22022). The Russians are claiming that it accidentally caught on fire while being towed to port for repairs. Regardless of who is correct, the ship is severely damaged & supposedly sinking. Sadly there were 500 Russian sailors on board with conflicting reports on their whereabouts.
This is regarded as being severely embarrassing to Russia & Putin in particular due to the fact that their BEST warship was taken down by a country with NO navy of its own.
What have you heard on this news report & do you have any better info???
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Last I heard, it sank. It is interesting to me that Putin would rather claim that the flagship of Russia’s Black Sea fleet didn’t sink because of an attack by a declared enemy force, but instead foundered because his own people were too incompetent to properly deal with it.
Helluva message to send to the world.
Another embarrassing blow to the Czar. How does he explain 500 people dying on this ship to the population or Russia?
Starting a war is a dangerous gamble. Yesterday, Putin lost a piece of that gamble.
Yes I have.
Congrats to the Moskva for being promoted from flagship to submarine! ;-D
The crew was allegedly evacuated to other Russian vessels prior to the ship’s sinking in the process of being towed.
Ukrainians claim two hits with their Neptune missiles.
The sinking may have been due to fires the crew couldn’t put out – caused by missiles. Often missiles shred the superstructure and start fires, but often don’t sink a ship outright.
So the “excuse” may be partly technically true, except for claiming they weren’t attacked.
The Ukrainian Neptune cruise missile has a range of about 200 miles. And they proved it worked. That’s why Russian ships started moving away from shore yesterday and today.
If it was “just an isolated fire” on the Moskva they would have stayed put.
In lookig for further info, I found this on youtube. It’s supposed to be from the Australian News but I don’t know how reliable it is. I did find it interesting to watch though!!!
@HP According to the link I gave above, there were distress signals still coming from the ship after Russia claimed all 500 were rescued. With Russia’s track record, I’m going to guess that ALL 500 were lost at sea!!!
I’m actually surprised Putin didn’t claim the Moskva was now a submarine.
Of course, a loss like this makes Putin much more dangerous. He is a wounded animal, and will have to prove he is still powerful.
The Russians are saying the Moskva caught fire and subsequently sank when being towed in stormy seas. No mention of an attack by Neptune missiles. However, shortly after the sinking the factory where Neptune missiles are made was attacked. You can draw your own conclusions from that.
The ship was hit with two Ukrainian made Neptune anti ship missiles, which started a fire. The fire got into a ammo magazine and caused an explosion that sank the ship while it was being towed back to a Russian port.
I’ve been really proud of Ukraine for their ability to not bow down to Putin and to actually push his troops back
There is a war going on and the Pride of the Russian Fleet on the Black Sea is sunk. On one hand you have Russian opponents in the war claiming they sunk it and on the other, you have Russia claiming their own people are so inept they sank it themselves by accidentally throwing a lit cigarette into the munitions hold. Hard to tell who is telling the truth here, but in the end, the stupid boat is sunk.
The war in Ukraine has some rather profound implications regarding the continued viability of the tank as well as that of multi-billion dollar aircraft carriers.
A friend of mine whose job was to interpret info in situations like this says that the tanks will be reinvented as a driverless tank & we will only be losing the tank that we’re familiar with at this point & it will come back as an all new weapon!!!
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