Are you happy with the constitution?
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KRD (
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April 18th, 2022
I know there are a lot of people who hate and I want to know how everyone feels.
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It was written over two hundred years ago, so it does alright considering it’s age. And it does alright very well.
There are those who don’t like it like the founding fathers who didn’t like it. It takes compromise.
Of course, there are those people who want to have their cake and eat it, too.
Mostly, but there are things I would add and other things I would clarify better. Of paramount importance would be rank-choice voting, explicitly excluding corporations from having “rights” and being treated as “people.” and fundamental structural changes on campaign finance as well as bulletproof limitations on the personal enrichment of government officials from corruption and revolving door schemes. Being a politician shouldn’t be a golden ticket to self enrichment and the accumulation of 8–9 figures of wealth, but a service to the people you represent. I’m not going to pretend that I’m smart enough to know exactly how that should be structured, but I think it’s something that nearly every American would agree with.
There are plenty of other individual issues I have with it too, but I really do believe if we can rip democracy back from the clutches of our own domestic oligarchy, the democratic process will address them on the merits.
I’d be happy if it was being followed. Especially the Fourth Amendment. In my opinion, mass data collection through government is the biggest threat to our republic, especially when considering the amount of data being collected and the power of supercomputers and algorithms.
Oh and I think Election Day should be a protected national holiday (on a Wednesday to discourage vacationing) where all businesses (except emergency services) must close.
Eliminate the electoral college!
I will echo @gorillapaws. That is the singular issue in my mind. Generally though, it has mostly stood the test of time.
Yes, some of my best work.
@LostInParadise if we eliminate the electoral college then it is one person one vote. If that happens then big populated states like New York will choose the next person and other few populated states like Rhode Island won’t be able to choose. The electoral college helps were everyone’s votes count.
@KRD Right now, is NO time to judge the constitution! What you see, what is happening is directly due to the fact that our government has abandoned our great constitution, along with and our people and our once great country.
@Forever_Free – But you left out the sex. That’s why after 235 years, STILL NO MOVIE!
@KRD Not really. What the electoral college does is make it so that if you live in a populated state, your vote is worth less than someone in, say, Wyoming, and that a handful of swing states (Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin) determine the outcome of the election and receive much more campaign funding and attention from candidates than the others. Not saying the EC needs to be abolished. But both options are just two sides of the same coin at this point in history: in either case, people will feel like their votes don’t matter. It will just be different people who feel that way. The EC prioritizes geography over population. For better or for worse.
@KRD You have a problem with one man/one vote? Why should someone in North Dakota have an equal say to 50 people in Texas?
@si3tech The Constitution worked pretty well in January 2021, despite treasonous efforts to abandon it.
@KRD When we are governed by our constitution we can realize we are one people under God. One people, not many races and creeds. Let us concentrate on what we have in common rather than magnifying some superficial and not so superficial differences. Doing this, our country can run like a well oiled machine.
@si3tech Praise be to Allah! No more having to listen to non Book believers!
It needs work now, and had obvious flaws from the beginning.
In fact nearly everyone involved in hacking it together in 1787 had some objection to the final draft that everyone treats as a “sacred text” now. The process and the issues were so whacked that Rhode Island refused to participate, only 55 of 74 appointed representatives bothered to attend, and delegates from three states refused to sign the final version :
https://www.history.com/.amp/news/7-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-constitutional-convention
I hate modern politics because it’s become a tool for rewarding incompetence and corruption. But that doesn’t mean giving up. We need to stop pretending that there are no new problems, and no better solutions.
@JLoon It wasn’t left out at all. When the book comes out it will reveal the very sensitive constitution. The Movie is already being filmed on a secret location that only filmmaker David Lynch knows. The soundtrack from Crazy Clown Time and titled: “National Treasure – The Inside Story”
Folks, it’s the Constitution. Please capitalize before you bash it!
@jloon Yes, but Amendment 69 is not what most people would guess it is about. I would type it here but I am on a tight leash for divulging spoilers.
I am mostly happy with it, mostly, but I am unhappy with how often it is misinterpreted.
@KRD why would you assume that every person in the state would vote the same way?
Yep, I think it is one of the most impressive documents mankind has ever created. It addresses many, many topics and gives some guidance on others. And it was originally only 4 pages (on parchment) long. It was the basis for an entire nation and was 4 pages long. Compare that to something like the Affordable Care Act which was some 20,000 pages long. Which controlled more and was more useful? And the ACA is just one example. Modern politicians have no idea how to effectively use words.
I am happy enough with the Constitution to object to people meddling with it, as Putin has done in Russia, turning Russia into a totalitarian state. To say you can’t imagine it happening here is the problem. It can happen whether you can imagine it or not.
It’s a “living document.” That means it’s designed to be meddled with as the need arises.
It is designed to be very hard to do so though.
@Dutchess_III The Constitution gives the president power but it also places limits on that power. It can be amended; I just don’t want the president doing the amending.
Regarding the ability to amend the Constitution, I would alter the method to get rid of the provision of a Constitutional Convention, but replace that with a National Referendum.
It would still require ¾ths of the population to approve, but it would reduce instances where the overwhelming majority of the people are in favor of an amendment but a handful of states wil not entertain even a vote on the issue. The Equal Rights amendment is an example of small states blocking the will of the people.
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