What is your reaction to this list of things most Americans agree on (Read details)?
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Great to see that on several, very different topics, many people seem to agree; gives an unexpected view on the device that can also be seen, the last years.
Can both be true?
I would almost think that the devide is less present than suggested.
Maybe instigated by corporate media?
Happy to see that 60% agrees that Roe vs Wade shouldn’t have been overturned.
Very sad that nine mastodonts thought differently.
Frightening to read that, again 60%, see the “illegal” asylum seekers as a crisis.
In my eyes, an asylum seeker can’t be illegal.
Best news, unsurprisingly, to an extent, is that a big majority see Mitch McConnell as a unpopular politician (spineless weasel)!
The only thing I question is that most Americans think. Illegal immigration is a problem. How is it a problem?
I agree with most, if not all of those. I certainly appreciate the positivity of the article. Would like to see more of that all around.
Note: I wanted to write divide in my first and third sentence.
I just finished that list and I have to say IMHO I agree 100% with all of it. A couple of political things are kinda over my head, but mostly I agree.
I don’t agree with everything on that list, but it doesn’t matter. The problem in the US has never been that the people are hopelessly divided on questions of policy. It’s that a particularly cynical subset of our elected officials aren’t interested in doing the things we all agree on because they would prefer to focus on the places where we disagree in order to maximize donations and partisan advantage—with primary emphasis on the donations—and are willing to leverage every loophole and minoritarian institution to do so regardless of how many well-meaning people are dragged into their narcissistic vortex of greed.
IMost of these land pretty squarely in the ‘duh’ category. This is the most non-newsworthy poll I’ve ever seen.
I was surprised and pleased by the results. It seems beneath all the insanity a bedrock of American common sense and decency remains. It seems the madness afflicting the country doesn’t come from the people so much as the politicians.
Thank you for sharing that. It was good to read even if it was a pain to scroll through all the ads.
I agreed with all of them – except for one and can’t remember which it was.
Also is there a place or state that does not allow contraception?
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@LuckyGuy There are states, like Missouri, in which there is talk of banning contraception. There was a piece on NPR about it today.
I thought it was interesting, not boring or “duh” (an expression I really detest). The news isn’t, for example, that Mitch McConnell is unpopular but that most people agree on this. It does seem to say that we are, underneath, more in tune with one another than we are at odds. This is worth pointing out.
I was not in full concurrence with all fifty of the opinions, and there were a couple that I do not care about at all, but my views are in line with the majority’s by far. That’s encouraging.
(Jan: Ok, I deleted the Q. Sorry.)
@Jeruba Since this in General, please ask a separate question on that.
I found it interesting. There were a few surprises for me, but overall most of them did not surprise me that most Americans agree. A lot of the ones we agree on are things that impact the majority of the country, and by majority I mean the lower and middle classes.
Some of them I figure it depends on how the question is worded whether you get agreement, and maybe some people agree on an anonymous survey and possibly say something different to their friends.
Also, keep in mind there are more registered Independents than there are Republicans or Democrats.
Agreement on McConnell could be Democrats are fed up with most Republicans and a lot of Republicans are not happy McConnell said Biden is president and a lot of people seem to want younger politicians, and he is part of the “old” group.
Immigration, Republicans think we have too many illegal immigrants coming in and Democrats think we need to do something to make legal immigration easier and safer.
Medical Debt forgiveness is the new comparison being made by Republicans. They are saying that medical should be before education forgiveness. I don’t believe in debt forgiveness in general, because then we will never solve the problem of why people are in debt from medical or education.
Just because people agree on a topic doesn’t mean they view it the same way. What it does mean is maybe a lot of those topics can be solved if politicians work together.
@LuckyGuy Some places are considered contraceptive deserts, because it is difficult to get contraceptives for lower income women.
Also, I don’t know if Dominoes pizza founder John Monaghan ever built his residential community where they would not allow contraception to be sold? He had a lawsuit about being forced to provide contraceptive coverage for his employees, and I think he won. He’s a fanatic Catholic, emphasis on fanatic.
To me it’s an interesting window into what Americans think, as a foreigner. I think a lot of these (the President should never lie or we don’t want another civil war) are just basic human desire and I believe you can find the same sentiment in other countries that also have decent people. So I mostly ignore those opinions and focus on the less universal one like politics.
A couple of things caught my eyes:
- Lowering flags to half-staff for Elizabeth II was the right choice: in my country you would be mauled to death if you did that. It would be “crying for a stranger wheb your fellow countrymen are suffering”, as an average netizen would put it. Not to mention the person you are crying for is also responsible for colonialism, as an average netizen put it. We are supposed to be dancing and partying.
– American independence was the right call: this one is a bit… juicy. I’ve read enough materials about the war to know how controversial it is when it comes to the purpose. But then again I’m not American and I have bias about my own history so I don’t judge.
– 9/11 attacks changed the world: I’ve been meaning to talk about this for a long time, but it will come off as insensitive, so forgive my language because I don’t mean it. I know how horrible 9/11 is to Americans, and I have all the sympathy to the victims and their family. But honestly, 9/11 itself has no impact on an average Vietnamese. We may know all the facts about it and how messed up it was, but we aren’t emotionally attached to it, simply because 9/11 didn’t affect us at all. 9/11/2001 was just a normal day to an average Vietnamese. We saw the news, talked about it a bit, then moved on with our life, and then nothing changed much. Without the news talking about it every year, it would have become another obscure piece of news. That’s how little 9/11 affects us. It’s not that we are insensitive, it’s just that we don’t feel the same effect Americans feel to be attached to it.
– We see too many political ads: this one is weird, because here we don’t have the kind of political ads Americans experience because we don’t have as many political parties fighting for supporters. But are ads in general too many? I think Americans would say yes. And so would people here, but for a different reason. We are only annoyed at ads that we don’t like. Scroll through a random viral FB post and you will see at least a couple of spams. And people actually respond to the spams and do business with them, right on the post! I’m not sure what would happen if we had political ads like America…
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@Mimishu1995 To make you feel better, when a terrorist attack happens outside of the US, America and most Americans don’t report the anniversary or even remember the attack at all year after year, unless a specific reason triggers to talk about it.
Americans were shocked by 9/11, because most Americans felt the US was immune to being attacked even though other western countries have been attacked, even though our embassies have been attacked, even though the World Trade Center had had an attack in the early 1990’s before 9/11. Americans have very selective memories and most people like to feel safe so they twist Information to feel that way.
I think the flag at half staff was ok to most Americans, because it was showing sympathy to the people of the United Kingdom, and the UK has been our allies for so many years, and even though the US was founded by people rejecting the King, we still have a kinship, plus the queen was so iconic. At the same time it wouldn’t surprise me that some Americans feel it’s very wrong to honor someone by lowering the flagwho is not an American.
I am surprised by how high the numbers are – a lot in the 70’s and 80’s. Where does Trump get his support from? I would be curious to know how many people think the last presidential election was stolen. I would guess a good 30 to 40%.
All are pretty obvious and safe statements.
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