Do you think anti-white racism is a significant problem in the United States?

No, it’s not significant. It’ll be significant when their houses are appraised for less, and the government targets them to fill up for profit prisons.

One reason I find this to be an interesting topic is that I don’t just encounter it among the “usual suspects”. Of course I hear it from the right/Trump supporters, but I also hear it from more left-leaning individuals who say things like “I don’t agree with [right-wing narrative], but anti-white racism is a problem”. I wonder if it’s just part of a general tendency for every American to feel aggrieved about something. I still rarely hear exactly what “anti-white racism” is supposed to be, because if it is what I think it is a lot of the time (CRT/history), then, I’m not convinced it’s a problem either.

@Demosthenes
I just looked her up and saw what you’re referring to:
She’s probably tired of the two party system and wants to be an independent.

We will also see more “Republicans” leaving the party and going independent.

Basically the two party system has reached its limits and moderates are trying to take over, which is a good thing.

We’ll see more voters doing it, but I’m not sure about politicians. The fact is that Democratic politicians who become independent or Republican are seen as based/red-pilled/seeing the truth for the first time. Republican politicians who become independent or Democrats are seen as spineless tepid milquetoasts. I hate the two-party system. But the reason I mentioned Gabbard is because her “list of grievances” is standard right-wing fare: wokeness, anti-white racism, etc. It’s one of those “Russian reversals” I was speaking about in another thread: the Democrats who are supposedly against racism are the real racists (especially against white people). It’s that idea that I want to dissect.

@Demosthenes
I don’t know if there’s a specific situation that happened, but I just assume she’s referring to everyone online and at protests getting out of hand and radical the past 3 years.

No one wanted white people to get on their knees and beg people for forgiveness at protests. We wanted police to be trained better and maybe some better benefits for pregnant women and rent to not cost 2100 dollars.

Most people are discovering politicians can’t fix any of this because it would require taking money from rich people.

Tulsi is launching a podcast. This is marketing.

As to the question, no anti-white racism is not a problem. Having consequences for public displays of racism (like getting fired for calling someone the n-word) isn’t anti-white racism or wokeness. It’s called “having consequences for your actions.”

I don’t like using the word racism in the context of hating or discriminating against white people, but I do believe it exists, and I have family members who have dealt with it. It was either for being white, or maybe the person was antisemitic, I guess it would be hard for someone in my family to be sure. I don’t think it was antisemitism, because I doubt most minorities would know my maiden name is Jewish, and the relatives I am talking about don’t present as Jewish.

I don’t think anti-white is a big problem though, and mostly it is a distraction from systemic racism that really needs to be addressed. The fact is white people hold most of the power and if one white person here or there is discriminated against, it is not statistically significant, and no matter how much someone wants to blow it up into some sort of political issue, it just isn’t, or shouldn’t be.

When I think of people discriminating or being racist against white people, I think of it in terms of being treated badly as a statistical minority in the workplace. I do not mean affirmative action or quotas, I mean when someone is white, and works mostly with people who aren’t, and there is obvious favoritism and outright bad treatment towards the white person by superiors or colleagues. This does happen in some places, but the workplace needs to address it, not social media or politicians.

In my daily life the only thing I perceive as anti-white, is recently I learned some Black people assume I am racist or against them, or don’t want to treat them equally, because they assume that about all white people until shown differently. I feel a little offended that assumption is made by some people, but I know it is not all Black people, and I have sympathy for the position, because it comes from the pain of their own experiences.

ALL racism is a problem.

Tulsi is advertising the launch of her podcast, and went down a pandering checklist of crazy right-wing topics in order to get publicity.

Anyway, the concept of “racism” is only meaningful when paired with the concept of power and systems. Otherwise we’re talking about individual prejudice. So, any talk of “anti-white racism” is nonsense that we can easily dismiss.

@Demosthenes: “I keep coming across the phrase “anti-white racism” and how it’s one of the main issues with Democrats and the left.”

I know I’ve said this before, but you seem to be exposed to a large amount of right-wing talking points. Do you intentionally expose yourself to this for fun, or are you honestly surrounded by people who have been infected with this stuff? Also, Democrats and “the left” are opposed to each other, so try not to conflate the two like the right does.

It is in the same garbage drawer as “white genocide”, “the great replacement theory” and “Umvolkung”

I don’t think so at all.

It was worse here 10 years ago and then again when BLM was making headlines.

We are a trucking hub so some of the Middle Eastern men are not always friendly either.

You gotta be fucking kidding.
No people so privileged as the white people.

Edit: I second @hat‘s words.

@hat For the most part, I deliberately expose myself to it, though I stated in my first response to this thread that part of the reason I was interested in it is because I don’t just hear it from whom you’d expect: I hear it from white liberals who reject “great replacement” narratives and such, but still feel somehow victimized because of their race. So I’d like to know what it means: a couple people have provided examples, but I haven’t encountered it personally.

@Demosthenes: “I hear it from white liberals who reject “great replacement” narratives and such, but still feel somehow victimized because of their race.”

Who are these white liberals that buy into this?

@hat
It goes back to your first response (which was very good): individual racism versus systemic.

A white individual may obviously be subject to racism if they are in an area where they’re a minority. But black people deal with that all the time. So it’s basically a small population of white people discovering later in life, that it apparently doesn’t feel very good to be a minority.

Black people already figure this out much younger in life.

If white people are used to privileges higher than other races but are later pulled down to equality, they will feel that they have lost something.

But some issues are not so clear-cut e.g. college admissions. A college might prefer to admit a non-white student with the same academic score. Doesn’t seem fair to the white student.

@RocketGuy: “But some issues are not so clear-cut e.g. college admissions. A college might prefer to admit a non-white student with the same academic score. Doesn’t seem fair to the white student.”

@Demosthenes – We found your guy. :)

Well, I do think the affirmative action question is an interesting one (probably one I’ve asked about before). Just as long as no one’s calling it “reverse racism”...

Though what’s interesting is that a lot of the controversy is around Asian students, rather than white ones. Some Asian students believe they’re being discriminated against, that colleges think they have too many Asian applicants and stereotype them (high achieving, helicopter parents, dull personality).

Exactly! We wonder if our daughters had trouble getting into Univ of Calif colleges due to the high percentage of Asian students there already. They had to go out of state, which was fine. If white parents want to do away with affirmative action, many Asian parents will cheer! For us, we appreciate college diversity for cultural richness and societal benefit.