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Dutchess_III's avatar

Is it ironic that Trump chose a song sung by gay men for his rallies?

Asked by Dutchess_III (47053points) October 19th, 2022

YMCA. And the song itself is full of gay suggestions. It was fun to dance to tho.

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RayaHope's avatar

LOL! Sometimes I so wish I could post a gif! Yes, maybe, maybe not…?

Dutchess_III's avatar

You could post a link to one @RayaHope.

RayaHope's avatar

^^ But that’s no fun :(

rockfan's avatar

Not ironic at all in my opinion. It shows the kind of person he is, a raging narcissist who desperately wants everyone to respect him no matter what. That’s why he also wrapped himself in the LGBT flag. And then simultaneously pretended that knew quotes from the Bible in order to impress the Christian Right.

MrGrimm888's avatar

Not a surprise.

ragingloli's avatar

I doubt he knows that.
Another example are all the right wingers that loved the show “the boys”, specifically the character Homelander, not understanding that he is supposed to be a villain, and then getting pissed off when the show started openly mocking them, not realising that the show was mocking them from the very beginning.
Ignorance and obliviousness are their defining traits.

Dutchess_III's avatar

The thing is, in his core, he’s a raging homophobe

Blackwater_Park's avatar

Is he a raging homophobe? I had not seen that. Just because he is a self-absorbed jackass does not make him a homophobe. I mean he may be but I have not seen him be homophobic. If he is there is a good chance those suggestions in the song went way over his head without him noticing.

Brian1946's avatar

@RayaHope

“But that’s no fun”

How about displaying the link as something like Trump plays the Yechy Magats Criminal Association song, or something of your own excellent imagination?

Brian1946's avatar

Here’s a quote from a March 3, 2019 post by Stache:

Less than two hours after Trump and his virulently anti-LGBTQ activist Vice President Mike Pence were sworn into office, all mentions of LGBTQ issues were removed from the official White House webpage.

Trump signed an executive order stating policy to repeal the Affordable Care Act (ACA)—landmark legislation that provides access to healthcare for millions of LGBTQ people.

Trump’s State Department removed from the website former Secretary of State John Kerry’s apology for the infamous “Lavender Scare” witch hunt in the 1950s and 1960s, and other content LGBTQ content, like information on pride month observances and the State Department’s Special Envoy for the Human Rights of LGBT Persons.

Trump nominated Judge Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court. Gorsuch has a long and troubling career opposing civil rights, including for LGBTQ people. Given this record, HRC took the extraordinary step of opposing this Supreme Court nominee before his hearing—a first for the organization.

Vice President Pence cast the tie-breaking vote to confirm Betsy DeVos as Secretary of Education, after all Democratic Senators and two Republican Senators voted against her confirmation. DeVos’ family foundation funded major anti-LGBTQ orgnazations and campaigns. Her anti-equality record was denounced by major civil rights organizations, including HRC, which actively worked to stop her confirmation.

On a party line vote, Senate Republicans vote to confirm Jeff Sessions as the U.S. Attorney General. HRC and civil rights organization across the country protested Sessions anti-equality record from when he served as Alabama’s Attorney General and as a U.S. Senator.

The Senate confirmed anti-equality Tom Price as U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS), who has spent years in Congress trying to repeal the ACA and opposing every LGBTQ equality measure.

Under the direction of Sessions and DeVos, the U.S. Departments of Justice and Education revoked the Obama Administration’s guidance detailing school protections for transgender students under Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972.

The Senate confirmed equality opponent Ben Carson as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). Carson has made clear he opposes equality for LGBTQ people. His harmful rhetoric has included equating marriage equality with bestiality, opposed laws that protect LGBTQ Americans from discrimination, suggested transgender people be required to use separate bathrooms, and joked that same-sex couples might have their wedding cakes poisoned by anti-equality bakers.

After the Trump administration decided not to protect transgender students, the Supreme Court sent Gavin Grimm’s case back to the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. That means transgender students have to wait at least another year for the Supreme Court to affirm their basic rights.

Trump’s HUD—led by anti-LGBTQ proponent Secretary Ben Carson—took two steps backwards on protecting LGBTQ people. First, they withdrew a requirement for emergency shelters receiving HUD funding to post information about LGBTQ people’s rights to access the shelter safely and in accordance with their gender identity. Then, they withdrew critical data collection and evaluation guidelines for a homelessness prevention initiative targeting LGBTQ youth.

The Trump Administration quietly killed a plan to collect data regarding sexual orientation and gender identity from the American Community Survey conducted by the Census Bureau. This was Trump’s latest move to erase LGBTQ people from federal surveys and disrupt programs providing direct assistance to the LGBTQ community.

Trump signed an executive order giving AG Sessions discretion to create a license-to-discriminate in agencies across the federal government against LGBTQ Americans and women.

There’s so much more but I’ve already taken up more space than I should have. This is the Republican party, run by Trump. Here’s the link where I got this info: https://www.hrc.org/timelines/trump

JLoon's avatar

Oh my. Are we really shocked?

“Irony” isn’t in Trump’s vocabulary. What matters is that he can twist the hook from YMCA to MAGA.

But what adds to the weirdness is that the Village People went along :

From November 2020 -

“That’s because Village People co-founder Victor Willis says his music company owns the U.S. copyright… and he’s decided to issue a retroactive nonexclusive license to the Trump campaign.

“He says he made the decision because ‘the benefit of Trump’s use far outweigh any damage caused considering Y.M.C.A. is once again on the Billboard charts, and is now in the top of Apple iTunes chart sales.’ Translation… Victor doesn’t want to kill this cash cow.”

https://www.tmz.com/2020/11/07/village-people-ymca-victor-willis-grants-donald-trump-permission-not-suing/

Sometimes it’s about doubling down, sometimes it’s about bending over…

JLeslie's avatar

I think he’s fine with whoever will send him money and vote for him. He knows his very far right loyal supporters will twist it any way they can so it makes sense to them. They are like a cult. His run of the mill Republican supporters believe they aren’t homophobic or hateful so they will decide it’s fine. Remember he can do just about anything and it’s ok. He laughs when he is out of sight I’m sure.

MrGrimm888's avatar

Ya know. I’m SO fucking * done,,* having these types of conversations….But… I do find that this thread is turning from smoke to fire…
I love it…

kruger_d's avatar

@RayaHope That is one hot mess clickbait article with sources like “some on Twitter” lol

RayaHope's avatar

^^ Don’t kill the messenger. lol

Dutchess_III's avatar

Wait! Wait wait! Somebody told Trump what YMCA stood for! That can’t be a gay song!

Dutchess_III's avatar

It stands for Yound Men’s Christian Association.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^Ya. I know that Dutch. Just what does that have to do with the social subject of homosexuality ?

Dutchess_III's avatar

Just thinking that he was pandering to the Christian right again. And, as usual, completely clueless.

Nomore_Tantrums's avatar

Nothing Trump does surprises me anymore. I mean the guy can barely string words together to form a coherent sentence.

Nomore_Tantrums's avatar

Crazy. Gay music group supporting Trump, Trumpites having no problem with it. What next, pro choicers having a fund raiser for Repub candidates? https://youtu.be/gBzJGckMYO4

Blackwater_Park's avatar

I think you all are just reading into it too much.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Somebody suggested it to him.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^Agreed Dutch. You have been accurate in every aspect of this
IMO.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I just wonder how many times aids and stuff have set him up by suggesting he do or say something that’s going to make him look a fool.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^I try not to think about it Dutch.

Nomore_Tantrums's avatar

He needs help?

Nomore_Tantrums's avatar

I just saw a meme on Facebook, that “A woman voting for Republicans is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders”. Hope that’s true.

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