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Can you please help me figure out this plumbing problem?

Asked by jca2 (16892points) December 27th, 2022

This weekend, we had very cold temperatures, in the single digits.

Christmas eve, it was about 4 degrees during the day, and my basement door was accidentally left open, so the basement was freezing. I had the sinks running a trickle, so they weren’t frozen, but the shower froze, A friend came over and got it unfrozen, and he put a heater in the basement.

Around 10 at night, my daughter took a shower. Shortly after, I got a phone call from a neighbor that there was water coming from a drain in front of my house. Apparently there was also a FB post in the local group, neighbors were looking for my contact info to let me know that water was coming from my basement. I went to the basement and water was streaming into the basement from below the bathroom area. Water was pouring in and the basement floor was getting flooded. A neighbor came and shut the water off for me, which I was very grateful for. I had been calling plumbers but there were no plumbers available at midnight on Christmas eve. The 24 hour ones were dealing with people’s frozen pipes, from the power outages in the area.

A friend came over early Christmas morning, and turned the water on, coming into the house. He looked at the shower pipe and it seemed fine. Everything seemed fine. I took a shower, all was fine, water pressure was fine. I was texting a neighbor who inquired about whether I got the problem taken care of, and I told her how it was so weird but everything seemed fine now. She said probably the pipe is frozen, was frozen from when the guy shut the water off at midnight on Chirstmas eve, and when things warm up, later on this week, the gushing will start again.

At least if that happens, I know how to shut the water off.

I’ve taken two showers since Christmas day, and I have used the cold water in the shower to test whether that was working ok and it is.

Is it possible there’s a frozen spot in the pipes and yet the shower is working fine, both hot and cold water? It really doesn’t make sense that it was gushing out on Christmas eve and now it’s fine. The heater is still on in the basement, the door is closed and the temperature outside is in the high 20’s, so it’s not totally frigid. Yet, I know that plumbing problems don’t usually go away on their own.

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kritiper's avatar

There are pipes that lead to the outdoor faucets. It sounds like there may have been shut-off valves on these and the one that froze has been turned off.
The same thing happened at our house in 1968 when the outside temp went down to about -50. Once the weather started to warm up we heard water spraying under the house. I checked and found that the pipe that went to the outside faucet had frozen. I simply remove the broken pipe, removed the faucet from the pipe and reinstalled the faucet under the house where the pipe had been screwed in. (I wonder if anyone has ever figured that out and replaced the pipe?)

Dutchess_III's avatar

Not all of us can “simply” remove pipes and faucets @kritiper.

jca2's avatar

I went down to the basement today and figured out how to shut the water off. When the outside temps heat up later on this week, I may shut the water off at night so if anything defrosts overnight, it doesn’t start the waterfall in the middle of the night.

RayaHope's avatar

@Dutchess_III Don’t be so hard on @kritiper He was just saying it was simple for him to do it. Maybe he has some plumbing experience and he is just trying to give @jca2 an idea what to look for.

LuckyGuy's avatar

Maybe the drainage line from your house to your septic or sewer connection is frozen. It might be too close to the surface and a small section of it froze.
It is possible water is backing up and then coming out of a vent line.

I don’t know how your plumbing is laid out. Does anything usually come out of that drain pipe? Are your downspouts connected to your sewer line or septic gray water line?

jca2's avatar

@LuckyGuy I don’t have septic any more. Nothing typically comes out of the drain – I never even knew there was a drain there. The property slopes down to the road, and the wall is at the bottom where the property meets the road.

It’s been in the 20s overnight for the past few days, but above freezing and going to the 50’s by end of the week/weekend, so I am curious and eagerly but nervously waiting for things to defrost.

RayaHope's avatar

@kritiper You are very knowledgeable for being 14. No wonder you did so well in life. :)

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