“When I say it’s a waste of time, I mean, can we not assume all these possibilities are likely, and instead of wasting a major part of our resources on discovering them – we can use those resources to improve technologies that help us survive imminent dangers.”
– Humans are to NO degree, devoting anything anywhere like “a major part of our resources on discovering them”!
“Or, say our ship is sinking, and one jackass is using the fancy brass telescope to spot land far off. Would you not kindly redirect that effort to the immediate problem? The telescope is not the dire task.”
– This analogy, too, isn’t compelling, unless there’s something else the jackass could be doing that’s particularly necessary for them to do. For any ship worthy of the name “ship”, it is definitely worthwhile to have at least someone somehow establishing where the nearest safe place to land a lifeboat is, if that’s not currently known. Otherwise, everyone aboard might short-sightedly focus on getting into lifeboats as soon as possible, only to find that no one knows which direction to row, potentially leading to many, or everyone, being lost at sea.
When you’re talking about an entire planet, it’s nonsense to say no some should be doing task X, unless task X is clearly an actively BAD idea.
” But, building a telescope specifically to find the aliens? Seems like we can assume that we are not alone, and jump ahead to the efforts we’d begin had we spotted the aliens. I am not of the opinion that simply observing a warp drive signature will a) require a ‘traditional’ imaging telescope placed at a lagrange point. And b) resolve how it’s done.”
– Observing evidence of vastly superior alien technology, could very likely point us to what’s possible, and possibly clues to how it’s done. That could help people think about what to research, that otherwise might tend to seem like idle science fiction ideas.
– What is your reasoning that leads you to a) and b)?
“Some of our greatest minds are working on such matters, aliens be damned…. Why not ask them if the funding for the alien telescope could be better used to flesh out the research on theoretical interstellar propulsion systems.”
– Fortunately for happiness of Earth, people are given some measure of choice in determining what to do with their lives. There’s already a catastrophic amount of bias toward resources going toward things that will make mega-wealthy corporations and their mega-wealthy owners, even more wealthy. And there are already plenty of people suggesting focusing on other types of projects, and plenty of people doing those other projects.
– The way you’ve worded things here, it sounds like you think zero people should be spending any time on searching for extraterrestrial intelligence. But perhaps you just mean that some of the projects you’ve mentioned seem extravagant and like not the best use of resources. In that case, I might agree with you, but I’d need to know a lot of details that may not even fully be public knowledge.
“I think, like Elon Musk, that we need to be a multi-planet species. I think that should be a priority. And, when you’re setting priorities you sometimes shelve cool side quests to achieve a primary objective.”
– I think we should focus on keeping this, the best planet for life as we know it, from becoming unlivable due to our own actions, first. Looks to me like we may be going to blow that, so if you’re talking about choosing priorities, I don’t think we should be trying to colonize anyplace else, before this planet isn’t in such peril.
“Unless we’re trying to go there on an Ark. Is that it? Where do we send the Ark?”
– No, that’s not it.
– More like, we see some stuff that leads to major breakthroughs in physics and technology. And, other things like people really wanting to know what’s going on with other intelligent life out there.
Note too that if, as you suggested, we spot a major civilization on the other side of our galaxy, that means we’re seeing what they were up to about 60,000 to 70,000 years in the past, which means they’ve had that much time to improve their technology beyond the point where they were so advanced that we could detect them then.