What have you heard about the murder of Tyre in Memphis?

I saw on the evening news that he got pulled over and got out and ran. They never said how 5 policemen got involved. I would like to know that also.
At some point he said he was having trouble breathing so the police called for an ambulance. The two ambulance people have also lost their jobs. It wasn’t clear what part they played to get fired from their jobs. This will be a lot to wade through once it all comes out.

@chyna Okay thanks. I didn’t hear that he ran. Interesting.

What I heard was the prosecutor feels the cops knew they were creating a situation that could cause his death, so they are being charged with murder. I believe willful murder, it’s not an oops he wound up dead charge.

I don’t know all of the details. If I understood correctly even officers letting it happen are being charged, because they did nothing to stop it.

I just read about that. If it’s true, and I have no reason to suspect it’s not, it’s horrendous. They will be releasing an hour long (as I understand it) video tomorrow. The man died from extensive bleeding from a severe beating.

edit: forgot to add link

https://tinyurl.com/2p8nwust

I just saw on TV the policemen are charged with murder and kidnapping. They beat the man to death, some stood by and im not sure how many did the beating. The kidnapping charge indicates they held him outside of what the law permits and that’s understanding police offers have a lot of leeway in their rights to hold people.

It’s unbelievable.

Something I saw earlier pointed out all of the officers were Black and I just saw on CNN photos of them all. Race doesn’t matter I don’t think. Not in this instance. It’s police brutality.

Edit: a lawyer just said since they are all charged the same that it indicates they all did some of the beating. That conflicts with what I heard before.

Yes. The video will be released tomorrow night as part of the Friday night news dump.

At first I thought this horrific incident couldn’t be racial as everyone involved was black but I’m not so sure. Would this have happened if the victim had been white?

Found out about it last night. I just got back from Memphis. That place was crawling with cops. Now I know why.

Memphis Police Chief Cerelyn “CJ” Davis said video of the Jan. 7 traffic stop that allegedly led to Tyre Nichols’ death left her “horrified,” “disgusted,” “sad” and “confused.”

Part of me wants to watch what lead up to this; yet at the same time, I have NO desire to watch the man being beaten to death!!! I’ll just be glad to get the “real” facts in place of conjecture. I hadn’t read that he ran, so the video should clear that up.

I heard that there were a couple of other people (medical responders) involved after the alledged police incident.

I’ve heard some people say that the officers were fired and arrested so quickly because they were black, but there’s no way to know that, and in either case this was the right reaction and it should happen any time this kind of violence is committed by violence. People also comparing it to Rodney King, but King at least survived. This sounds like the footage must be so undeniably bad that there’s not going to be an argument that this was somehow justifiable, like there often is with police violence.

I doubt I will want to watch the footage.

Yes, one more sad example of how out of control Law Enforcement has become in our country.

The video is horrible. Straight up murder, by all appearances. His mom said when she got to the hospital his head was swollen like a watermelon and his neck was broken. She said she knew he was dying. Two doors from his parents house.

I hope all the cops involved do prison time .

I don’t see how the cops involved wouldn’t do prison time. Tyre had handcuffs on, there’s video, he died as a result of his injuries. It seems like it should be a cut and dried case.

We can’t get straight info from the mainstream media when it comes to Cop-on-Black crime.
On this particular issue, they will always side with the so called “woke” people.
I know on this alone, I sound like a Trumper or a white rights activist. But I hate those cults.
But I also hate cultish thinking on the opposite side.
The media never did tell us the truth about Trayvon Martin. They never told us how his lawyer Ben Crump used a fake witness (Diamond Eugene) to cover up Trayvon’s own troubles. The witnesses at the Condo all saw Trayvon strike Mr. Zimmerman first. The general public has no idea about this. The general public has no idea that Trayvon was getting involved in a gang, and his friends from church were begging him to correct his ways.
Sometimes things are as they appear (such as in the Floyd case: George Floyd was murdered and the theories that indicate anything opposite that are wrong). But other times, things are not as they appear, such as in the Trayvon Martin case.

@Kraigmo In the Trayvon Martin case, there was no reason at all for George Zimmerman to get out of his car and confront Trayvon. I believe, if I am remembering correctly, that even the dispatcher told Zimmerman not to confront Trayvon when Zimmerman called it in to 911.

@jca2 True. And that was Zimmerman’s major mistake. Zimmerman is no saint. But neither was Trayvon, who was fascinated with fighting and gangs. Two subjects that were the #1 subject found on hundreds of his text messages. And plus, the fact Crump had to use a fake “girlfriend” (Diamond Eugene) gives evidence to the fact that the real Diamond Eugene (who was not at the trial) had truthful information that didn’t look good for Trayvon.

@Kraigmo I didn’t watch the video, I don’t want to, but from how it seems to me, even if this guy was a really bad criminal, are we to believe he had to be beaten in that manner to be stopped or to be brought into custody? The cops aren’t judge and jury, their job is to bring a criminal to jail for their time in court if there is a reason to suspect them of a crime.

Sorry, but in my view at least one of these men enjoys beating up people. Being a cop in most cases gives him protection to carry out his brutality. Even protection for beating their wives. Sometimes that protection fails and they get caught and dealt some consequences. Just like being clergy or a teacher gives men access to children and a cover to hide under for their improprieties.

There was a study done that people can point to though, where people in the study took on the role of prison guard, and took on behaviors of brutality. The Stanford Prison Guard Study.

I watched it, you all should too. It may be tough to see, but there is no denying what happened here. There will not be any new evidence come to light that will lessen the impact of this event. Cops pull him over, wrestle him out of the car and beat him to death.

@Blackwater_Park Exactly. I hear there are 4 videos, but I havent checked the other 3 yet. Hard to watch.

@Kraigmo with Trayvon Martin, Nothing matters except that at the time Zimmerman confronted him, all he was doing was walking through a neighborhood with nothing more than a bag of Skittles. He had no weapons, he was wearing regular clothes, nothing alarming about his appearance except that he was black, and apparently was someone Zimmerman felt should not be walking through a white neighborhood.

@Kraigmo & @jca2 and anyone who wants to join in, why not start a question on the Martin/Zimmerman case.

Does anyone here think a nationwide safe word would work? Like if a person felt their life was in danger by law enforcement, regardless of their responses or actions?
So if I were Tyre, before he ran, if he said “fandango”, and everyone stopped to assess the situation and re-group.
I know it’s optimistic, but what can we do to stop this horror of police brutality? Even the EMT’s appeared complicit, I’m in shock.

@KNOWITALL I’m still at a loss to know how the EMT’s were involved, but I find it all very hard to watch, so they’ve probably said and I missed it.

@chyna The EMT’s showed up and then didn’t even look at the patient, they just stood around having a chat with the cops, like it was a stop at a cafe for coffee and not someone with probable brain damage who was very likely semi-conscious.

@KNOWITALL Actually, that’s not a bad idea. I don’t know how well it would work; it would probably take some time. But it’s worth a try. I haven’t heard any police departments or anyone else coming up with anything. If nothing else, even if you were eventually killed, you’d know you had done your best to stay safe, and it would be on the bodycams. It really might make at least some officers or first responders stop and think about what was really going on or about to.

@jca2 That breaks my heart.

I didn’t watch it, but a friend said that he started calling, “Mama! Maamaaa!” She was only a couple of houses away. He probably ran because he was scared of them and thought he could make it home where at least he might be safe.

@smudges Anything is better than nothing.

@KNOWITALL They shouldn’t have to assess the situation and regroup. There are procedures in place – handcuff the person, read them their rights, put them in the police car, and precise procedures for use of force. Assessing and regrouping shouldn’t be necessary if they follow the procedures. If they go off with their emotions and strength, as they did with Tyre and they did with George Floyd, a safe word isn’t going to help as it didn’t help when George Floyd said “I can’t breathe.”

@jca2 Perhaps you’re right. I choose to present possible solutions rather than handwringing and regret. I’m pissed right now.

Every time these things happen, new procedures are put in place and the police have trainings on all of them – extensive traning. I’m sure after the George Floyd murder, there were trainings about how to subdue someone without a choke hold or without any pressure on the neck at all. After the “rough ride” incident in Baltimore – was that Freddie Gray? – there were probably trainings in Baltimore about how a prisoner should be restrained in the vehicle so the “rough ride” wouldn’t make happen. The police are constantly tweaking their procedures, their policies, there protocols and their trainings to reflect the changes. I think evil cops with huge egos don’t care, they know there are cameras on them and they think they’re the judge and jury and they own the streets.

I think evil cops with huge egos don’t care, they know there are cameras on them and they think they’re the judge and jury and they own the streets.

Exactly! And they’re the same cops who go home, beat their wives, kick the dog, and order a beer and dinner from hurting wife. Hurting wife, kids and dog have to simply put up with it because cop’s buddies would support him if she ever dared complain to anyone in authority. There are some people, women included, but fewer, who just get off on power.