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Will you miss Dilbert?

Asked by filmfann (52488points) February 26th, 2023

Scott Adams iconic comic strip has been dropped after racist comments by Adams.
So Dilbert has been cancelled.
Do you read it?
Do you read newspapers?
What will be the outcome?

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janbb's avatar

Not really. Only came across it occasionally in any case. And besides, white supremacy media outlets will probably embrace him now!

LadyMarissa's avatar

I used to enjoy Dilbert. Will I miss him??? NOPE. I stopped reading the newspaper years ago & the comics went along with the paper. I don’t even know IF my local paper carried Dilbert.

gondwanalon's avatar

Scott Adens is entitled to say his opinions even if they are asinine.
I’ve read the Dilbert comic a few time. Most of it is pretty lame.
I read the Wall Street Journal mostly and the Seattle Times.

janbb's avatar

@gondwanalon He’s definitely entitled to say his opinions and the outlets that employ him are entitled to react by not paying him any more. It’s free enterprise at work. I don’t really care either way.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

!Wish they could do that with some ultra right wing politicians !!

Forever_Free's avatar

I won’t miss Dilbert as there are many of him that work in my office.

Entropy's avatar

I used to read Dilbert. But like all things, eventually it started repeating itself and I got bored and went elsewhere for my comedy. It was good humor. I knew Adams was politically active, but I don’t follow him closely. and I don’t care enough to seek out Adams’ original comments.

NPR’s recounting of them was underwhelming. And the way NPR didn’t quote him at length makes me suspicious that if I were to take the time to review the whole thing, I would likely find that they were less bad in context. I’ve been around long enough that I’ve seen what it looks like when journalists are trying to control your reaction to a story, and this stinks of it. If this were a more important figure, I’d want to watch the whole thing in context.

Irukandji's avatar

Nah, I never found it very funny or interesting. I’ve also never been deep into office culture, though, so that could be as much about me as it is about the comic strip.

@Entropy “the way NPR didn’t quote him at length makes me suspicious”

It’s an hour long video, which they linked to for anyone who wants to hear the whole thing. And they tell you exactly how far to go in if you just want to hear the part that got him fired. Considering that the article isn’t about the rant (it’s a story about the fallout, not the rant itself), I’m not sure why we should expect a transcript.

“I’ve been around long enough that I’ve seen what it looks like when journalists are trying to control your reaction to a story”

Well, I’ve been around long enough to know what it looks like when someone wants to cast doubt on something without actually providing any sort of evidence or making any sort of argument. And it looks just like your answer.

ragingloli's avatar

Never heard of him. I prefer the Kangaroo

janbb's avatar

^^ con’t click, don’t click, don’t click

Brian1946's avatar

I opened the link in a new tab, so that I could stay on this one. When I finally peeked, all I saw was a template asking, “How will you use zeit.de?” Since I didn’t want to be subjected to ad pests nor subscribe, I didn’t go any further.

Dig_Dug's avatar

I never did understand that cartoon much. I must not be nerd enough.

filmfann's avatar

This has been coming for a while. He went from anti-Trump to Trump-is-God in about 6 months. His comics recently have had elements of this.
It’s too bad. I used to work for the same company, and I probably talked to him several times (he was an ISDN engineer at a time I was installing ISDNs). I used to work for the guy he characterized as the Pointy Haired Boss (B.M.). I used to work for the guy he characterized as Wally (J.H.). Both characterizations were amusing, but unfair to them.
My crew used to bust up at company references he made in the comics, even after he left the Company.
This fall is disappointing, but he needs to understand you can’t say this shit.

nightwolf5's avatar

I will miss seeing it, but I’m not that into Dilbert. My dad on the other hand is a huge fan of the comic. I did like the short lived animated series.

kevbo1's avatar

I don’t get the paper, so I only see Dilbert accidentally. Sometimes I think it’s funny—mostly just amusing. It will still be published on Adams’ subscription platform.

Here are his comments (about 7 minutes) if you want to hear them for yourself.

I’ve listened to a number of his podcasts and found that he often makes declarative statements, sometimes controversial, and sometimes to see if the statements gain traction online or in the media, and then in a subsequent podcast, he’ll draw on semantics to explain that he didn’t say what people thought he said or use it to illustrate how media narratives are created..

The problem is that he frequently has blind spots when it comes to his arguments and one shows up right away in the clip above. In the poll, 26 percent of Black Americans disagree or strongly disagree with the statement “It’s OK to be white” and 21 percent are “not sure.” Adams correctly rolls this up into 47 percent of Black respondents not being willing to say “It’s OK to be white” and then stretches it further to “nearly half of that team doesn’t think I’m OK to be white” and then “nearly half of all Blacks are not OK with white people” and then “the only outcome [of helping Black people] is that I get called a racist.”

So my first blind-spot thought is isn’t it possible that ‘not sure’ means “how the fuck should I know?” It’s kind of silly to pin that level of vitriol on the ‘not sures’ when the prompt could be interpreted a few different ways.

But it turns out this is worse than just Adams. According to this article, the poll itself is racist. Rasmussen was playing games by polling Black Americans with what is, not coincidentally, a white supremacist slogan. Ick.

jca2's avatar

I saw a brief clip about the controversy on the evening news.

I don’t read newspapers, except the NY Times online which doesn’t have comics.

I don’t read Dilbert nor will I miss it.

The only comic I really appreciate, other than Peanuts, is Far Side and I used to like Doonsbury, back in the 70s and 80s when it was popular.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

I remember a Dogbert quote.

“The customer is always right, and because of that they need to be punished.”

raum's avatar

I’ve never really been into Dilbert. But the recent coverage has made me catch up on controversies around other cartoon strips. Seems to plague the industry.

Now I’m missing Ren & Stimpy and Earthworm Jim. Bummer because I was looking forward to introducing my 13yo to Ren & Stimpy. :/

RocketGuy's avatar

I enjoyed his comics. Brilliantly accurate on office politics. But then he became anti-vax, anti-trans, and now openly racist. I’m disappointed.

kevbo1's avatar

I wish I hadn’t read this Q because now I can’t get away from Adams’ podcasts. Anyway, I was waiting for a relatively succinct moment that illustrates what I said above, and FWIW, I think this explanation on his part (about 9 minutes) qualifies.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

In Dilberts animation I belive that the Garbage man is Dilbert from the future.

filmfann's avatar

Since he has lost syndicating his strip, I wonder if Scott Adams is a garbage man now?

It’s not like all that isdn engineering knowledge is valuable now…

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