@tinyfaery . I read the article you linked. I have to say. I haven’t ever heard of anyone basing their opinions about her, in such a way. In this thread, before you mentioned gender. Nobody else had. @filmfann did opine that “she slams ex-boyfriends.” I personally, don’t find that opinion misogynistic. But. It makes your article relevant.
The thread was asking about awareness of her songs. If you want to address negative opinions about her, that’s fine, and I would at least agree that there are some people who don’t like her songs. Maybe they just don’t like her. However. I would hardly refer to her as some sort of victim of misogyny, or a symbol of civil rights.
I suppose I take issue with the concept that her detractors have their opinions, based solely on gender, the subjugation of women, or whatever. In fact. I find that perception of her critics to be quite short sighted.
I won’t speak for everyone. However. My opinions of her music, at least my negative ones, have the same origin as my opinions of most pop artists/groups.
I don’t hate such characters. But. I rarely respect them as a “talent.”
Regardless of if it’s Savage Garden, Selena Gomez, The Backstreet Boys, Taylor Swift, or any music that would be played on a movie during a “teens shopping” mantra, I typically lump those types of artists together.
I’m not saying that I never liked any of these types of songs. I guess, it just bothers me, that such artists get such an “easy ride.” The Spice Girls were five girls, that couldn’t play instruments just sang (with help from computer tuning) and they had back up vocalists.
I just… I can’t give them the respect I give to Journey, 2 Pac, Pearl Jam, Eric Clapton, Beethoven, Outkast, Metallica, Alabama, Chicago, Rod Stewart, BB King, Jimmy Hendrix, Sound Garden, Aretha Franklin, Billy Joel, Alice in Chains, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Kendrick Lamar, or even artists whom are practically unknown etc…..
I know that, as with Trump getting elected, pop artists have such great success because of the general public. That’s fine. That’s life.
Does the fact that she is a young, gorgeous, white female, whose main audience is young white girls with lots of disposable income, hurt her? Probably not.
If I you talked to me when I was 17, I would have been embarrassed to get caught listening to TS. It wasn’t socially unacceptable for a young male to like such things. It wasn’t acceptable to me either. It was everything that was wrong with the world, to 17 year old me.
If you asked 17 year old me, I’d probably have said I didn’t like her music (not 100% true,) but that I’d boink her in a heartbeat. As if she would have given me the time of day. That’s the opinion of an ignorant, hormone driven, inexperienced, victim of bullying, frustrated, confused, angry at the world, closed minded, “anything different from what I love sucks” little boy.
As I mention some of the reasons I wouldn’t have liked her, I can’t help but think about why people are hateful of people like TS. Jealousy…Jealousy of not having to live through their shitty younger years, and then being bombarded with someone living the dream, and pretending/thinking they have it rough.
She just seems like one of “the cool kids”( pun intended,) to me. I could never imagine finding anything in common with her. Commonality is what connects me to an artist of any type.
I await your retort…
I hope this was not taken as a personal attack. I lurve you @tinyfaery ...
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