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Are homemade 3D printed guns a problem in your community yet?

Asked by RedDeerGuy1 (24945points) March 29th, 2023

Also what to do to control the widespread ease of production of homemade firearms?

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kritiper's avatar

I haven’t seen any.
We have enough rednecks and skinheads around here that we don’t need any printed guns. Our guns are “all natural.”

janbb's avatar

I’ve never seen a gun of any kind in my neighbrohood.

zenvelo's avatar

No. Someone that desperate to get a gun isn’t going to go the 3-D route, because the printers that are of a quality to produce a gun aren’t that cheap and the output is plastic.

raum's avatar

Sad to say it. But I think it’s probably easier to get a gun than to get access to a 3D printer.

MrGrimm888's avatar

The plastic is a big deal. Plus. If you’re trying to avoid metal detectors, you’ll get caught with your springs, and bullets.
It’s definitely easier to get a real firearm.
Depending on who you know, it’s even sadder that legal means of obtaining a firearm is the easiest.
As technology improves, it may become a bigger problem.

Acrylic's avatar

Nope. If someone needed a firearm here all they have to do is go to the gun shop on the east side of town. Would be easier to get the weapon you need from there, can even test in their range. Nice store.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

You still need some metal parts, I haven’t seen a plastic stand up to the pressures that happen in the chamber of a firearm.
And no other than on tv CSI, or other type cop shows I have never seen a 3D printed firearm in real life.

gorillapaws's avatar

You can easily print a part that will convert an AR into a fully automatic machine gun. But it’s cool, because if we outlaw fully automatic machine guns, then only outlaws will have fully automatic machine guns… Also fully automatic machine guns really aren’t that different from muskets because they both shoot projectiles from a barrel.

Dig_Dug's avatar

^^ Yeah I think I’ll get me a rocket launcher, never know when you’ll need one to get ride of mice. It should go nicely with my M2 50 cal. machine gun with armor piercing incendiary rounds for those pesky chipmunks! Ya know if we outlaw M2 50 cal. machine gun with armor piercing incendiary rounds, then only outlaws will have M2 50 cal. machine gun with armor piercing incendiary rounds!

Blackwater_Park's avatar

You don’t even need a 3D printer.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

In my state the biggest supply of guns used in the commission of a crimes comes from stolen guns out of “red neck’s” UNLOCKED cars in their driveways !

Forever_Free's avatar

Not in my hood. The bears are out of hibernation however.

KNOWITALL's avatar

No although I wouldn’t mind firing one to see how it feels.

kritiper's avatar

@Dig_Dug That’s nice.
It is illegal to own a fully automatic machine gun, much less a M-2. Do you know of anyone who owns one?
I know LOTS of people who have semi-automatic AR-15s and/or semi-automatic AK-47/74s. How is the M-2 relevant?

SQUEEKY2's avatar

@kritiper From what I can tell it’s a knee jerk reaction from people that are frustrated with the Government not doing anything about the shootings that keep happening.
Background checks that the conservatives are so proud of don’t seem strong enough.
THey go on if you can get an AR15 why not a rocket launcher or a Bazooka.
Even though the later are totally illegal for a civilian to own.

Dig_Dug's avatar

@kritiper That’s my point, how ridiculous can we get with are out of control NO control of weapons. You know when that amendment was written they never imagined the firepower we have today. Nor the crazies running around with them. We are fed-up with children dying and nothing changing to stop this except for government officials saying:” We’re not fixing this!” right after three more children are murdered!

LuckyGuy's avatar

No. Other than as a curiosity they are pointless. A “real” gun is much better and easier to get.

kritiper's avatar

@SQUEEKY2 No one can legally own a combat type rocket launcher AKA bazooka. Yes, some COULD get ahold of one, but not too many would go that route. Too complex.

@Dig Dug Okay, you’re fed up. I get you. What would you do? Making laws will not make the problem go away, hence the saying “When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.” How do you propose they, the government, should/could fix this? I say everyone should carry, as a best case fix for an unfixable problem. Granted, it’s not perfect, but what else is there??

It really bugs me when people always bitch that this thing needs to be fixed, but no body offers any possible (if even unreasonable) solution.

Dig_Dug's avatar

@kritiper Do you realize many people don’t feel comfortable with a weapon? They are intimidated by them, afraid of them, feel awkward around them. They will probably hurt or worse themselves or someone else. Yes even training won’t help someone that just don’t like to handle them. Not everyone is Rambo! More guns in unsteady hands is certainly NOT the answer.

Assault weapons are far too powerful for home defense! I’m NOT against a shotgun or small caliber pistol, but a weapon that can shoot large caliber rounds for miles is way overkill for home defense and you know it!

LuckyGuy's avatar

Hey @kritiper You know I luv ya so I’m not trolling or trying to piss anyone off . Seriously, let’s brainstorm some ideas – no matter how unreasonable.
I’ll throw out a few and you critique and shoot holes (like what I did there?) in them and vice versa.
0 Give everyone a gun. – Nope. Way too dangerous. “Everyone” includes that babbling homeless person on the street we just walked past.
0 Limit production and distribution of 7.62×39, 5.56 and.223 ammo to military. Place a Federal tax on new ammo in those calibers Tax to be paid by ammo manufacturers, buyers and sellers. – There is already a lot out there and a black market for it will open up.
0 Allow people to notify authorities if someone is acting crazy and flag them for firearm purchase. – Too iffy. Too open to Karens and whiners and people with grudges.
0 Ban all guns. – Tremendous black market. Too many out there.
0 Protect good Samaritans who accidentally inflict harm to others while trying to stop a mass shooter. –
0 Require background check for all Concealed carry licenses and require an annual fee to carry. Fee will be used for mandatory insurance coverage in case of accident. – ?
0 Have Federal listing of new firearm sales. – ?
0 Place terahertz scanners in strategic places to surreptitiously scan for firearms .- ?

I’m not insulted by any criticism or suggestions. If something is criticized an alternate suggestion must be made. We can do this off line or PM if you like.

Blackwater_Park's avatar

So why do people go shoot up schools specifically? This question needs to be answered first.

Blackwater_Park's avatar

Also 3D printed guns are hype. It’s really a non-issue. 3D printing has mostly failed to live up to its promise. Sure you could 3d print a crappy plastic gun. It’ll still need some metal parts. It’ll probably blow up in your face if you try to use it. A trip to the hardware store is much better if you want to “make a gun.” Even better, a machine shop. Guns are just not complex devices.

gorillapaws's avatar

It’s ridiculously easy to make a fully auto Glock. 3d printers are dirt cheap and aren’t that hard to use.

zenvelo's avatar

@Blackwater_Park Schools are easy targets with lots of vulnerable victims. Even “security” is non-existent (as demonstrated at Uvalde). A shooter who wants to make a “statement” will choose something like a school or a mall or a concert.

zenvelo's avatar

Two things that could be in place by summer without infringing on anyone’s “rights” are:

1) Mandatory insurance for gun owners.

2) Removal of limitations on liability on gun and ammo manufacturers and dealers.

Blackwater_Park's avatar

@zenvelo Yes, so why are school shootings a more recent phenomena?

zenvelo's avatar

@Blackwater_Park How do you describe “recent”? Sandy Hook was 11 years ago. Columbine was 24 years ago. University of Texas tower shooting was 57 years ago.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@zenvelo So you think myself and other legal and safe gun owners should pay additional insurance for what exactly? We aren’t doing anything wrong and we’re certainly not shooting children.

Never going to happen regardless as guns are not registered. You or the government can never account for every weapon in the US as States and citizens will not comply. Especially red states who already told the govt to kick sand.

It just chaps my ass that so many of you want to penalize all of us for what a few psycho’s choose to do.

Blackwater_Park's avatar

@zenvelo Start with Columbine then look at the numbers of shootings that are particular to schools. Why are the numbers increasing?

LadyMarissa's avatar

NO…not yet!!! I would think it would be cost prohibitive. I don’t know anyone who owns a 3D printer. When I checked into getting one, I went into sticker shock. It’s cheaper to steal a gun than buy one & it’s even cheaper to buy one than to print one!!!

janbb's avatar

@KNOWITALL Everyone has to carry automobile liability insurance and yet most “legal and safe” drivers never have an accident.

zenvelo's avatar

@KNOWITALL It isn’t “additional”; there are no insurance requirements for gun ownership. But with guns being the leading cause of death for children, why shouldn’t there be insurance? It isn’t “a few psychos”, it is all the guns floating around in people’s houses and cars.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

But once you have a printer why stop at one?
But you still need some metal parts,as I said earlier I haven’t seen a plastic that can with stand the pressures that happen in the chamber of a gun.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@janbb and @zenvelo Interesting concept. Perhaps a gun owner fee with no serial numbers or actual count required. I would consider that, for sure.

My guns never hurt a child or a living person, so I won’t be penalized for other people’s ignorance or treated like a criminal.

Dig_Dug's avatar

@KNOWITALL I sure hope you have insurance on your car(s) because you know that is because of other peoples ignorance in getting into accidents. Unless you’re one of those that we are paying such high rates for!

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Blackwater_Park's avatar

Many people already have such insurance policies. They’re called umbrella policies. I’m not sure what additional insurance covering guns specifically would do other than be an indirect tax on gun ownership.

gorillapaws's avatar

@KNOWITALL “It just chaps my ass that so many of you want to penalize all of us for what a few psycho’s choose to do.”

Says the pro-lifer… The irony.

MrGrimm888's avatar

It’s not JUST a school thing. People are attacking “soft targets.”.. Anywhere there are lots of people, and the location is not prepared for such lone wolf attacks, which is almost nowhere, is potentially vulnerable to a mass casualty event.
I think close to 200 people died in South Korea, from the Halloween stampede last year. That didn’t even start because of a shooter….
These school shootings, are just exceptionally remarkable.

The problem with school shootings, is that the government makes it mandatory for children to attend, but the government is failing to protect those children. There’s no quick fix…

LuckyGuy's avatar

@RedDeerGuy1 @SQUEEKY2
@SQUEEKY2 Back in the stone age many kids made zip guns out of wood, electrical tape and a piece of rubber tubing and a broken off car antenna. It would fire a .22, single shot, with perfect reliability.
It was an afternoon project and definitely not used for crime.
That was too easy for me. I made a mortar from one of my mother’s old lipstick tubes. It worked spectacularly well. I was 12! Yikes!
(Shhh….Don’t tell my Mom!)

MrGrimm888's avatar

^Firing a bullet without a gun, isn’t that hard. Just have to hold the bullet/shell tightly in some way, and strike the primer. 22’s are even easier.

DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME

LuckyGuy's avatar

@MrGrimm888 Absolutely!
Not that I would know of course… But it was easier because you could use a regular drill to drill out the block of black walnut your Dad had in the basement workshop and line it with the car antenna that Johnny Razzano gave you, And use the Remington .22 bullets that were sold everywhere for $0.50 a box.
The mortar required a much larger diameter and heavier barrel like a brick with holes in it and a tricky method to form the breech.

Dig_Dug's avatar

@MrGrimm888 I did that once! I never did THAT again.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@gorillapaws Yeah it is ironic on both sides of the aisle. I’m proudly Pro-Life. Mock away, we will all answer for our actions in the end.

gorillapaws's avatar

@KNOWITALL ”...we will all answer for our actions in the end.”

I can’t say I know if there’s an afterlife, but I can say that if Christ was real, he certainly didn’t think fondly of hypocrites, judgmental people or folks who liked to pray in public. I think most of the evangelical right would not be looked on favorably, especially when the Bible explicitly requires women to have abortions when they’ve been accused of infidelity. Then they fight tooth-and-nail to support a firearm culture that’s killing ACUTAL breathing kids more than any other cause but pretend to love life. If Christ thew the money changers down the stairs of the temple, what do you think he’d do to someone who forced a girl to give birth to her rapist’s child and then voted for people that made it easier for kids to get massacred… all in the name of Jesus?

Dig_Dug's avatar

@gorillapaws Apparently people that follow the bible have never read it.

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