Have White Supremacists demonstrated in your area recently?

No, not that I know of.

Whether the affiliation is wanted or not, the bigots follow conservative circles…

Not here, but we’re a very blue area.

Not here in the 30+ years to my knowledge.

I’ve never seen a White Supremacy group period…much less seen any demonstrating. Interesting thing about the notice you wrote: why would the Sheriff’s office be sending out an alert for a demonstration? Isn’t that a 1st Amendment right? Or are they afraid the left will show up to cause problems if there is a demonstration?

@MrGrimm888 I disagree. Bigotry is a human failure. I’ve seen many left wing bigots that spew hatred about Republicans, about Christians…really about anyone that doesn’t agree with them. And isn’t that the definition of bigotry?

Bigot – a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices (Merriam Webster).

When I lived in Montgomery Village, MD in the ‘80’s the KKK had a demonstration one year. Very blue area. When I moved to Boca Raton, FL in the early ‘90’s the KKK had a Demonstration and Boca was 25% Jewish and the county was mostly Democrats at the time. I was shocked they would demonstrate in those places. It wasn’t a huge turnout like Charlottesville in these places, they were small gatherings. I have no idea the numbers expected here this weekend.

I don’t think red or blue necessarily matters, although they do have more chance to recruit in red areas. This is the first time since the ‘90’s I’m dealing with something like this, unless you count swastikas being drawn on dorm doors when I was at college in Michigan.

They don’t demonstrate here often, last time was about two years ago for a specific reason.
I’m sorry you’re upset and of course will pray for your peace and safety. Hugs.

@KNOWITALL I don’t expect any violence, it’s just unnerving. I went out last night even with the warnings.

One Jewish man on facebook felt we should confront them, not just Jewish people, but everyone who doesn’t want their hate here. I feel we should just ignore them, but I understand why he feels as he does.

If they get no attention I think they will go away.

@seawulf575 What does a right to demonstrate have to do with a warning to the Temple and people in the area that White Supremacists are congregating here this weekend? You can’t be serious. Are you saying there is no such thing as WS groups?

@JLeslie “If they get no attention I think they will go away” That’s exactly what should be done but that won’t happen because people can’t help themselves, they’ll want to be confrontational and that’s exactly what the white supremacist groups want to happen.

@Blackwater_Park Au contraire “All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men (sic) to do nothing.” – Edmund Burke

@janbb that’s definitely one way of looking at it, but in the case of WS, they thrive on people showing up and yelling and screaming at them, confronting them in the streets, drawing attention to their demonstration. In my opinion, that’s a good day for them – exciting and invigorating. Otherwise, they’d really do better just having their meetings in someone’s house.

^^ Yeah, I don’t have clear answers.

And it is a standard tactic to have other members of the WS/neo-Nazi groups show up and pretend to be liberals and part of counter-protest groups, in order to start fights and blame the ensuing violence on the counter-protesters, then cry “I was being peaceful, look how I’ve been wronged!”. It has become so common over the years that it is a trope. As well, outside agitators are paid to perform the same function.

I haven’t seen any. But this is Idaho, and we all know they are around.

Goodness, no.

@JLeslie Am I saying there are no such things as WS groups? Nope. I’m saying I’ve never seen one. I couldn’t begin to tell you the name of one.

As for the right to demonstrate, it seems this is a planned thing. It is likely whatever group looking to demonstrate has made it well known when and where they will be demonstrating. I say that because apparently the cops have enough advanced notice to issue the statement you passed on to us. There is a difference between a demonstration or a protest and a riot. Does whatever group this is have a history of showing up and attacking people? Rioting? Arson? Vandalism? Or is it scare-mongering by the Sheriff’s dept? The statement made (that you provided) doesn’t really give much info as to the protesters goals other than banner waving. And to be honest, any group that is looking to cause problems doesn’t forecast to the police where they will be protesting. Look at BLM and Antifa for examples.

@seawulf575 I never said anything about a riot. I also said I don’t think there will be any violence. I do think their mere presence is at minimum unnerving and can be terrorizing to some of us.

@JLeslie No, you didn’t say anything about a riot. My point is that it was stated they will be demonstrating. Demonstrations happen all the time. And they frequently make someone uncomfortable. But being uncomfortable and being in physical danger are two completely separate things. Riots, on the other hand, are rife with physical and material dangers. And since it seems that this is NOT going to be a riot, then the statement from the Sheriff’s Dept is fear-mongering…unless there is a history with this particular group causing further issues.

Question: Did the Sheriff’s Dept put out a similar notice following the George Floyd death? How about Michael Brown? Trayvon Martin? If they didn’t, then it is strictly a racist statement from the Sheriff’s Dept and one that seems to want to infringe on the rights of the protesters to protest.

@seawulf575 The KKK and other WS groups openly want to rid the country of Black people and Jews just to name a few, have a long history of violence, and in recent years have loud mouths about wanting to be able to carry every type of firearm, and were very involved with the planning of Jan 6 and plenty of members were violent on Jan 6.

Other groups that protest or demonstrate might be worrisome to you, but they aren’t daily preaching to kill the white people in America nor saying the US is a Black country or a Jewish country or a Hispanic country, but the WS do say the US is white country and a Christian country.

If you want to defend the WS as some innocent bunch of people that we shouldn’t be afraid of that’s just crazy talk.

No White Supremacists would dare to demonstrate are here. I report to you live hold up in a bunker behind the blue curtain of Washington State. I’ve been alive for going on 7 decades and I have never witnessed a white supremacy demonstration. Those “people” are Neanderthals who suffer from some sort of mental disorder. They are also a very small minority that can quickly and easily be smashed like a bug if they get out of control.

@seawulf575 By the way, it’s not unusual for police to chaperone or advise about demonstrations and protests that are expected. The police protect the protestors as much as those who might come to observe or hassle the protestors. Their job is keepers of the peace and to protect.

The police warning and adding extra coverage to the Temple is not fear mongering, it’s protecting people during an increased risk.

If Al Qaeda or ISIS came to your town to demonstrate do you think there would be warnings to citizens to not approach them and not to antagonize them? Of course there would be.

White Supremacists are not just everyday white people. They are terrorists.

Just read in the comments for this article that the second Saturday of each month is now called a Day of Action among WS groups. https://news.yahoo.com/chilling-footage-shows-white-supremacist-040050917.html

@JLeslie I’ll give you the KKK, but I’ve never seen any. And they are basically a joke. They haven’t done any violent protests in about 50 years. So what other WS groups are there? We hear about them all the time but they are the generic “White Supremacy Groups”. I believe that is a tag that is created by the media as part of the narrative. Remember the FBI whistleblowers last year that came out and said they are being told to make up White Supremacy crimes? Call any crime they can a White Supremacy crime to meet a quota? They said there were more FBI agents assigned to investigate WS crimes than there were actual White Supremacists. There was even a guy, Brian Levin I believe was the name, that was investigating White Supremacy crimes. He gathered all the crimes against Blacks, Asians, and Jews and showed how many WS crimes there were. But what he failed to do was get rid of the crimes of blacks on those groups, which was a large chunk.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t support racism in any of its guises…I’ve been clear enough on that so many times! But I do believe the entire WS thing is way overblown. Look at the article you just cited. “Chilling footage shows White Supremacy group Patriot Front marching through DC.” Chilling?!? It shows a bunch of idiots walking through a park. There are not even any bystanders where they are walking. How is that chilling? The article itself makes a lot of innuendo but doesn’t actually say anything that is “chilling”. It was an article designed to overblow the importance or the impact of these morons. Which is exactly what I said your Sheriff’s Dept was doing.

@seawulf575 If it isn’t chilling to you to see a bunch of white men marching for the WS cause then you really have a white ignorance problem going on. Whatever you say about police reports, warnings, presence, or media coverage, to me you are saying here even if there are no reports and I just happen to cross paths with this type of march or demonstration I shouldn’t be concerned? You really have an inability to put yourself into another person’s shoes I guess.

These people in the video are probably the same people who won’t wear a mask for covid, but cover their face with white masks to march.

Protests and demonstrations are regularly reported, all types of protests are reported, and if they have a permit it’s probably part of public record.

Under the heading United States you can find a list of WS groups https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_white_nationalist_organizations

On this site you can see locations of hate groups and numbers. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/white-nationalist

Jews are 2.2% of the population and are victims of over 50% of religious hate crimes.

WS groups are for the most part small, fragmented and often exist to make a few key people money rather than what their stated goals are. If they accomplished those goals, their cash cow goes away. There is one big exception, the aryan brotherhood. They’re apparently well organized, large, have no issue with violence and operate quietly in the background. People think this is just a prison thing but it’s not.

@seawulf575 “The KKK is a joke.” Ask any black people in your circle of friends if they find the KKK a joke.

Nassau County, Long Island today on the news: https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/antisemitic-flyers-stuffed-in-mailboxes-near-long-island-synagogue/ar-AA1cshe8

Seems like it was a big weekend. Nazis at Disney too. https://www.wtsp.com/amp/article/news/regional/florida/florida-disney-world-nazi-flag-desantis2024-demonstrators/67-ab718f3d-b053-40cf-81ec-d31d3f9b6a26

Orange County is up to it’s predictable nonsense. Other than that, no.

@JLeslie It’s crazy he’s not denouncing them. He’s said and done a lot regarding Israel and said he wanted FL to be the most Pro-Israel state in the US.
Yes they have Free Speech, too, but seems like he’s riding the rail instead of helping.

@KNOWITALL He who? DeSantis?

I think there are Evangelicals who support Israel passionately and include caring about the Jewish people in their passion for Israel, and there are Evangelicals who support Israel passionately who are antisemitic.

I have no idea how DeSantis stands personally on either, but I assume he is pro Israel and not antisemitic, but he does do a ton of dog whistles and pandering to the far right of the Republican party and the QAnon type. It’s a dangerous game.

@JLeslie Very dangerous.

@KNOWITALL Thank you for that validation. I wish I was just being overly irrationally paranoid, but it seems justified to be a little nervous.

I’m supposed to give a presentation in August about being Jewish in The Villages and now I’m thinking of cancelling. When I was asked to do it several months ago I originally said no, and then about 4 months ago I agreed to do it. Maybe it’s unwise to do it. What do you think?

@JLeslie I think you should if it’s safe to do so. It’s important to you.
I’m watching Jewish matchmaker on Netflix right now. Seems weird but I’m trying to learn about the culture. I’m underexposed and don’t understand the hate.

@KNOWITALL It’s not very important to me, I was asked to do it. I didn’t come up with the idea. I attended a presentation about being LBGT in The Villages (TV) and that was when the club leader approached me about doing something similar about being Jewish in TV.

It would be fun if I wasn’t paranoid. I already did most of the work for the powerpoint.

A couple of months ago when I was writing up a couple of sentences for the club leader to include in an email about my talk, he wrote me back wanting to add some additional information and I actually came back to him saying I didn’t want all of what he suggested in writing. That was just on a normal day before the WS threat felt so closer to home.

@JLeslie I meant being Jewish is important to you. You identify personally with these demonstrations, too. Only you can decide if it’s worth the risk. :)
I did ask a few people here about the Jewish hate, I’ll share when I get answers.