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elbanditoroso's avatar

Which Christian ethnic subgroup is more of a threat to Jews and other minorities? Christians who attend church, or Christians to don't attend church?

Asked by elbanditoroso (33577points) June 22nd, 2023

Various mass shootings (at synagogues, mosques, Sikh temples, etc.) have taken place by different groups – usually white Christian nationalists that are trying to ‘take their country back’ or showing their faith by killing others.

My question:

Do these Christians (and they identify themselves as such – it isn’t just my label) learn these behaviors at church? Or are they doing their killing based on some internal Christian belief?

To what degree are established churches part of the killing machine?

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ragingloli's avatar

Antisemitsm is an age old christian tradition, and the more fundamentalist the christian, the more antisemtic they are.
Remember, blaming Jews for the death of Jesus is christian doctrine.

janbb's avatar

That’s too simplistic a question @elbanditoroso. There are Catholic groups that fight for the rights of immigrants and the poor as exemplified by Dorothy Day, a Catholic socialist. There are many Episcopalian and Lutheran churches that are welcoming to gays and non-binary people. My Unitarian association has been on the forefront of the fight for civil rights – as have many Jewish people too, of course.

You can’t lump all Christian churches into one set of beliefs and make generalizations. Certainly some Christian churches have preached overt antsemitism and racism but where particular Neo-nazes got it is hard to parse..

chyna's avatar

My Baptist church feels that the Jewish are the chosen people and should be respected.

janbb's avatar

@chyna But we often question who we were chosen by and for what? :-)

kritiper's avatar

I doubt many Christians even know what “Christian” really means.
If people are prone to hate, it doesn’t matter what they believe or don’t believe.

LadyMarissa's avatar

God says that the Jews are his chosen people & I NEVER thought to question the why. I believe God over 45 & any of his minions!!! As a Christian who grew up in the church, I feel that the christian nationalists are the nastiest people that I’ve ever met. It’s NOT just the Jews & minorities that they hate. They also hate white Christians who refuse to follow “their” beliefs. NO one is supposed to think for themselves. If you don’t follow their lead then you are the one going to hell. It does NOT matter that they pick & choose which scripture that they are choosing to follow that day, you’re just NOT supposed to question their wisdom even though they don’t follow their own rules!!! Most of the nationalists haven’t read past the Old Testament…ignoring anything that was commanded in the New Testament…the New Testament teaches a LOT more love & tolerance!!!

KNOWITALL's avatar

Ours does too @chyna. I don’t attend much anymore but Jews were precious in fundamental Baptist and Southern Baptist doctrine. As a Catholic I’ve never heard that either.
Jesus was a Jew, too @ragingloli. That’s absolutely NOT how people in my area believe.
The only people I know that are anti-Jew are the WS/bikers and a few country throwbacks. No racist I’ve ever known is a Christian or goes to church.

*When I say throwback, I am referencing the crazy old racist types, like the one I knew who tried to shoot Jews in Missouri about 10 years ago. He may think he’s a Christian but ge’s so full of hate, I cant imagine he actually is one.

mazingerz88's avatar

Don’t know which Christian ethnic subgroup teaches its followers to see Jews as enemies. I could see individual Christians injecting their own politics and prejudices into their faith identities and twisting them into a new set of malicious beliefs of their own making. And these individuals are easy prey on social media to other groups of non-Christian individuals who for whatever reasons they have believe that Jews are their enemies.

SavoirFaire's avatar

First of all, neither “Christians who attend church” nor “Christians to don’t attend church” are ethnic groups. They are demographic groups.

But to answer your question, it doesn’t make sense to expect Christian nationalism to map cleanly onto either of those demographics when no other other group of Christians does. After all, nearly 40% of Americans consider themselves to be very religious despite the fact that only 20% attend weekly services. And about half of the non-voting population nevertheless identifies itself with one of the two major political parties. In short, identity and participation don’t necessarily go together.

We should therefore expect Christian nationalists to be split among those who regularly attend church and those who don’t. And there could be all sorts of reasons. Some might pick up their nationalist views at church, which means regular attendance may strengthen those views. But others might go to church because they think that behavior fits with their preexisting identity (and may continue attending despite their church not supporting—or even actively opposing—their nationalist views.

On the flip side, some might avoid church because they don’t feel supported there, while others might not attend simply because they think their self-identification and political activities are enough. Ultimately, Christian nationalism is a political ideology at least as much as it is a religious ideology. And political ideologies can spread with or without church involvement. So while some churches might promote such views, they will never be the only source of them.

All that said, I did find this analysis from Robert P. Jones (a graduate of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and the founder of the Public Religion Research Institute). This study finds that “church attendance has no significant impact on the relationship between white Christian identities and holding racist views,” but also that “an increase in racist attitudes independently predicts an increase in the likelihood of identifying as a white Christian, and identifying as a white Christian is independently associated with an increased probability of holding racist attitudes.”

The main takeaway for Jones is that church attendance doesn’t mitigate racist or anti-democratic sentiments and is in some cases an overlooked source of such views. This is not great news for those who want their churches—and the Christian church more broadly—to be solely an agent of good in the world, but it can also be an opportunity for those same people so long as they are able to recognize that the solution to these problems has to start at home.

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