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If a John/Jane Doe have their own grave and headstone when buried, can the same happen when they're cremated and have their own urn?

Asked by KmiberDWZ (167points) August 5th, 2023

Hello, I was wondering since John/Jane Doe can get a headstone when buried, will the same thing occur when they’re cremated and get a urn? Or John/Jane Doe can ONLY be buried and not cremated for whatever reason.

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elbanditoroso's avatar

A couple points:

1) it’s the person’s choice (if noted in their will) whether they are buried or cremated. Or their family’s choice if nothing was specified by the decedent.

2) some families chose to bury the urn containing ashes (which is sort of strange to me) and may choose to put a headstone in that location.

3) there is no rule or law that Jane Doe and John Doe need to be together after death. That’s custom, not law. John can be buried and Jane cremated, or vice versa. It’s entirely up to them and their families.

There are a ton of traditions and rituals, but no hard-and-fast regulations. Do what you want.

LadyMarissa's avatar

I might be reading this wrong; but in most cases, a John/Jane Doe are “unknown” people or they would be listed under their real name & returned to their family for burial. The true “unknown” deceased are buried in a potters field where they don’t get a headstone…they get a grave marker with a number. That number correlates back to their case file. In a rare case where the family is located after burial, they may retrieve the deceased & bury them wherever the family designates at the family’s expense.

With the current trend of cremation acceptance, I feel that would start the trend of cremating the “unknown” en masse but NOT giving them their own urn. Even the kind hearted people don’t care what happens to the unknown & the rich won’t allow it to happen to their family. So, I’m going to guess that there is NO personal headstone nor urn.

I may have read more into this than necessary, but that is my way of thinking!!!

Now if a “known” person actually had the name of John/Jane Doe, they would be turned over to their family for burial or cremation & then it would be a personal arrangement where a headstone or personal urn would be used.

I’ve only ever heard of 1 person whose name is John Doe & his real name is John N. Duchac & he’s an actor, singer, songwriter, & co-founder of the LA punk band X. He also has ties to movies The Bodyguard (1992), Road House (1989), & Ten Inch Hero (2007). Since he is known & only uses the stage name John Doe, I’m going to assume that he has relatives or has people who would arrange for his funeral, so a potters field not required with this own personally chosen headstone or urn.

kritiper's avatar

Yes. Provided people are around who can arrange it if the deceased hasn’t done it beforehand.
Next year I will arrange to have it done to and for me.

filmfann's avatar

My Dad died, and was cremated.
My Mom died 21 years later. She didn’t want to be cremated, and was buried. My fathers urn was placed in her casket, and the headstone has both their names.
A headstone and gravesite are not cheap. The mausoleum my father was in, before my Mother’s death, also had a large urn containing the poor, the unknown, and the abandoned. A close family friend is there, because her son didn’t want the expense of anything else.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I gave my son the invoice showing I had paid for my cremation in full. What they want to after that is on them.
My son mentioned getting a bench that holds up to X number of urns..but that would be expensive. But that’s on them.
It took years, but I finally talked Rick into cremation rather than body burial. That whole thing creeps me out.

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