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What if the court cases against Trump had been brought a couple of years ago?

Asked by JLeslie (65743points) August 15th, 2023 from iPhone

Would that have been better? Wouldn’t have to be all at once, but what about all of these charges finally being brought now within weeks of each other? They all just happen to get it together around the same time a few years later?

What do you think the political implications are of the indictments happening now rather than two years ago.

Side question: are the various prosecutors allowed to share evidence and testimony from depositions?

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chyna's avatar

In my opinion, the charges couldn’t have been made 2 years ago. There were so many charges that had to be fully reviewed, so many witnesses, all the T’s crossed and all the i’s dotted. If they had rushed these charges, trump’s lawyers would have had a field day with lack of evidence.
Even 2 years ago, the classified documents trump had hidden in that tacky bathroom were not known about.

JLeslie's avatar

@chyna You think ALL of them happen be ready at the same time?

chyna's avatar

No. But I think that if they had indicted some back then, or just had some charges, they may have felt they would be tipping their hand at what all they were looking to prove. Sorry for all the cliche’s I’ve used.
Again, this is only my opinion.

ragingloli's avatar

It takes time to build a case, to collect all the evidence to even bring charges.
As lawyers have said, the DOJ prefers to have their cases to be nigh watertight before bringing them, because they do not like to lose.

JLeslie's avatar

@chyna That’s an interesting take. Makes sense the tipping hand part.

@ragingloli The cases aren’t all brought by the USDOJ. Some are state level.

janbb's avatar

I don’t see how they could have since most of the offensives happened after the 2020 election. If you’re thinking thy’re doing this to stop Trump’s election, I would posit it’s the other way around. He’s running so he can claim that and possibly pardon himself, in the Federal case, if he wins. Also, so he can raise money from his base for his legal fees.

chyna's avatar

@JLeslie and the state level charges are the ones he can’t pardon himself from should he become president again.

RocketGuy's avatar

A Repub President (Not Trump but still possible) could pardon him of Federal charges.

JLeslie's avatar

@janbb I actually don’t think it helps in that respect, but I know some people are saying that. All of the cases at once certainly does lend itself to that type of talking point. I personally think it would have been better for the Democrats if the indictments started sooner.

janbb's avatar

^^ If you were king of the forest? lol

LadyMarissa's avatar

Don’t forget how much time he’s spent doing his best to delay everything that’s happening. I feel that he wanted everything to happen at the same time so he could use it to his advantage. He’s no longer as relevant as he wants to be, so he’s got to rile up the masses. He’s doing what he does best…create chaos & stomp his little feet!!!

JLeslie's avatar

@LadyMarissa He will continue to try to delay. That’s part of my worry.

@janbb Exactly right.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

@LadyMarissa stomp his little feet and LITTLE HANDS and other things . . .

Pandora's avatar

I think in a high profile case you cannot rush it. Its not like prosecuting a nobody. Or common person. If it was just some little nobodies who can’t afford high powered attorneys, then its easy to pick at a few things and get a favorable outcome for the prosecution. For a high power case you need concrete evidence.

Think of it like a murder case. The common person can be arrested for murder even without witnesses. Just a few things that show you were a threat and was close enough to the victim around the time they died. For someone with money and connections, you better show up with witnesses who either participated in the crime and helped before or after and have proof that you are the murderer. Then there is the fact that the common person can’t usually hirer a hitman. The rich person can. So no you have to find all the little threads that lead from the suspect to the person they hired
Just look at Derek Chavin who killed Floyd. There was video evidence and it still took almost 3 years to convict this turd. He was getting a lot of money to help with his case from the right wing. He only got 20 year sentence which you know probably means he’ll be out in 10. Then the other 3 got 3 to 2.5 years for not stopping him. Chavin was charged with several crimes and the judge gave him a concurring sentence. So basically he’s serving them all at the same time. How nice. So this is why it’s important to really have all the goods on someone before charging.

Then there is the Judge setting the case. Like the one in Florida. She’s holding it off till just before the primaries. I don’t think that is by accident. She’s probably hoping the case last for a year and Trump will be in office and can pardon himself. I still don’t believe Trump will ever see jail. There is no such thing as punishment for the rich and connected.

JLeslie's avatar

I’ve heard that some people are just hoping Trump will make a deal that he’ll never run for office again. I think he might agree to it depending on how the primaries go. I wonder if Trumpers will vote for any of his kids as a proxy?

Separate from this Q, but I want to mention: The case I care a lot about is the civil case about the women he targeted who were working the polls in GA. I want them to get awarded at least $20 million each.

chyna's avatar

I hope his kids don’t run for office. They are all 3 idiots. I can’t stand even looking at his sons.
I don’t think the GOP would go along with that either.
As long as trump is running for an office, he is getting money from his base. I don’t think he will agree to never run for office again. Millions of tax free dollars in his pockets.

JLeslie's avatar

@chyna I think the money is the driver also.

Pandora's avatar

@chyna Yep. I always wonder why some politicians run when they know they don’t have a shot at winning. It’s because it’s easy free money they get to pocket for failing.

jca2's avatar

That’s why these Republican candidates who don’t have a shot at winning are staying in the game. They keep getting funds from voters and endorsements from organizations.

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