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Is the US a country made up of 50 states, or 50 states that make up a country?

Asked by JLeslie (65789points) September 23rd, 2023 from iPhone

I went to a presentation yesterday about ways to improve the US government. It was simply the presenters opinion. He started with a couple of premises. He stated that if you don’t agree with some basics, you probably won’t agree with his suggestions for improving the US government.

One basic premise was he said he believes the US is a country made up of 50 states, not 50 states that create a country. I thought that was a really great point to make right off the bat. Just this one basic thing affects so much.

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ragingloli's avatar

It is collection of rogue colonies existing in a perpetual state of treasonous rebellion against their rightful sovereign, the English Monarch, Charles III.

seawulf575's avatar

It was originally made up as 50 states that created a country. The Founding Fathers recognized the problem with one centralized government controlling everything. The Constitution bears this out by assigning enumerated powers to the Federal government for things like foreign affairs and set rules for how states can interact with each other. Everything else falls to the control of the states. Additionally, when the settlers first came here they were setting up sovereign states. They joined together to fight a common enemy (British tyranny) and then decided to create a country.

The alternative, that it is a country made up of 50 states bears the question of why? If it was supposed to be one country, why do you need 50 states? Why call them states? Why not provinces or zones? And why don’t all 50 states fall under the same rules? Why are they allowed to have their own governments and constitutions, their own sets of laws?

kritiper's avatar

Both. But think of the United States as 50 different, independent countries. But if would depend on your POV, IMO.

50 states is not a rigid, unchangeable number. When I was born there were only 48 states. And if Puerto Rico became a state, there would be 51.

seawulf575's avatar

@kritiper That is true. But when the country was first founded, there were only 13. The number isn’t the important part, the idea behind it is.

JLeslie's avatar

I don’t know how people can be waving the US flag proudly, talk about preserving American culture, and want the freedom and protections of being a US citizen no matter what state they visit and live in, and not put country before state.

People who live in their state their entire lives and don’t see any chance of their children leaving that state, I guess they might not care what is happening in other states.

It’s not that I think all laws and practices should come from the central government, I don’t think that, but some minimum standards for sure in basic civil rights and opportunities.

snowberry's avatar

@JLeslie I have lived all over the US, and in Delaware. I knew people who had never traveled outside of the state. It was a similar situation in Indiana.

YARNLADY's avatar

It’s all one country, The different states are nothing more than political nonsense.

filmfann's avatar

The U.S. was intended to be a collective. The States were independent.
The Civil War forced a perceived change, making the States merely facets of the larger unit.

SnipSnip's avatar

It is a country currently made up of 50 states. The number can change.

kritiper's avatar

@seawulf575 Glad you agree with me.

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