Do you think Senator Bob Menendez should resign?
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September 27th, 2023
The other day, NJ Senator Robert (Bob) Menendez was hit with a bunch of criminal charges, including bribery. Almost half a million dollars in cash and over 100,000 worth of gold was found in his NJ home. His wife was also charged, as well as some associates. He did a press conference and said he was innocent and intends to fight the charges.
A summary of the charges is here in the Wiki article. You’ll see he had previous allegations of corruption in the past.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Menendez
There are increasing calls from other politicians for him to resign.
Should he stay or should he go?
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I’d like more information, he says he’s innocent so I need to hear his side of the story. If he’s guilty of course he should step down.
Definitely YES!!! I’ve NEVER heard a politician admit to their guilt even at the final second. Even when proven guilty, they promise to appeal without admitting guilt. He’s being removed from ALL committee seats which basically renders him useless. He can resign now, enjoy his time off, & IF proven innocent, he could run again next time. His mistreatment would be a great selling point for reelection!!!
He and his wife are going to court today to be charged. This is the second time he has been indicted although last time he got off. As a New Jerseyan, I think it’s time for him to go.
Yes. He is hurting the democratic party by remaining.
Yes, and let the governor appoint a replacement.
If the DNC and RNC purged all of the people who were acting in the interests of their donors and themselves vs. the people that elected them, I’m afraid there wouldn’t be much left of either party. Of course I’d be thrilled, but corrupt systems have a way of protecting the corrupt. I hope they nail is ass to the wall.
He should have resigned last time. Failing that, however, better late than never.
I think it would be better if he resigns if he is guilty, but he says he’s not guilty so if he wants to stay in and fight I’m not bothered by it.
What I do want is court dates and trials to happen quickly. If there is an abundance of proof, try him, find him guilty, or whatever the correct term is for this case, and get him out of office.
Taking years to charge people and bring them to trial is the biggest problem in our system.
@JLeslie My grandfather used to say it’s to make money for the lawyers.
I know when I was doing CPS and we had family court with the families, it was not just one court date, it was at least six months of once a month court dates. We’d show up, it would be postponed. Of course the attorneys are there every time. We’d show up, it would be postponed. We’d show up, it would be postponed. We’d show up, there’d be a conference, a recommendation, come back next month. Next month, show up, brief discussion, postponed. At least six months it would take just to make a new plan with the Judge, or get the case dismissed, or whatever. Really think about it, who makes the money? The attorneys, billing by the hour, billing for travel time, expenses, etc.
@jca2 I say the same about the lawyers. A girlfriend of mine had to endure continuance after continuance when she was sued. It took four years to finally get to court. Her legal bills added up to $21k. She won, and he was ordered to pay her legal fees, but she will never see that money. I was furious at one point that it seemed to me her lawyer was not putting up objections to pushing out the court date by the suing party.
He’s suing her in the UK too. It’s now coming up on five years since the original filing. So stressful. I thought maybe if she wins in the UK (where they live) she might get an order from the judge to include what he owes her from the US case, but she said no it won’t happen.
Not until he has been convicted. Until then, I consider him innocent.
He has a log and colorful history of corruption and ethics issues. He got away with an almost identical case once, but my understanding is that they have far more evidence this time around. I suspect he is guilty as sin.
HOWEVER, there are some things I consider before he should be tossed out or before he should resign. First, they keep talking about gold bars and cash he has at his house. It is not a crime to own gold bars, nor is it a crime for him to have them at his house. So when I hear that, I have to wonder if it is just to paint him in a bad light. They might have evidence that shows him accepting these things as bribes, but just owning them doesn’t do that.
The second, and probably the more important thing, is that he has only been indicted. If he truly believes he is innocent then no, he shouldn’t resign. As an elected leader I feel he has the responsibility to his constituents. If he knows he is guilty but still wants to fight the charge that is fine, but if it is taking him away from his duties or if he suspects he is going to be found guilty anyway, he should resign. He could maintain saying he is innocent but for the good of his constituents (and of the DNC if he wants) he will step down.
He gotta go.
I listened to his defense, and thought it was reasonable, until I heard the gold bars had serial numbers that show they used to belong to the Coch brothers.
Wow, I basically agree with @seawulf575, or he agrees with me. Lol.
^^THUD
That was me hitting the floor!
@seawulf575 I agree with your statement here too!!:
“As an elected leader I feel he has the responsibility to his constituents. If he knows he is guilty but still wants to fight the charge that is fine, but if it is taking him away from his duties or if he suspects he is going to be found guilty anyway, he should resign. He could maintain saying he is innocent but for the good of his constituents (and of the DNC if he wants) he will step down.”
Not quite sure why anyone is surprised that @seawulf575 agrees with us that this democrat should resign.
@canidmajor The Dems are in a stronger position if he resigns soon because the governor can appoint a successor who would be in a stronger position to run in November for a full term rather than a weakened Menendez trying to hold on the his seat.
@janbb, yes, I know, thank you, but my point was the larger main one.
@canidmajor And yet I was cutting him slack too. I notice you didn’t. So what does that say?
Yes. Even though democrats are held to a ridiculously higher standard than republicans, it’s the right thing to do.
It says that I may have more information than you do.
And my comment wasn’t slamming you, it was simply an unremarkable observation.
Yes, but so should everyone involved in the attempt to steal the 2020 election for Trump, and certain Supreme Court justices, etc.
^^Agree!
Menendez should resign and ask Justice Thomas to do the same.
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