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Care to test your mathematical intuition?

Asked by LostInParadise (32183points) October 11th, 2023

Team A has probability p of defeating team B. If they play two games, for what values of p is it more likely that one team wins both games than that each team wins one game? If you try test cases or if you cheat and work out the algebra, you may be surprised by the result.

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Blackwater_Park's avatar

It’s around P = 0.71 for team A to win both because you have to multiply the probabilities together to get an answer for P>0.5 for both trials. I say .71 because .7*.7 = .49.

Zaku's avatar

My intuition has my brain balk at the problem as soon as it detects there is no real (non-gambling, non-math-problem) reason to care what the answer is.

But, forcing myself to think about it, it seems to me that any value other than p = 0.5 would have a double win or loss be more likely than not, because it’s most likely that the better side will win, and then it’s more likely that that same side will win again.

I’ll wait for someone to confirm whether that’s correct or not. I’m not sure without working it out in a confirming way.

LostInParadise's avatar

Your intuition is correct, though this is not as obvious as it may seem. Suppose team A has a 60% chance of winning so, p=.6 while team B’s chance is 1—.6=.4. The probability of team A sweeping is .6x.6=.36, less than half. However, if we add in B’s chance of sweeping, .4x.4=.16, we get .36+.16 = .52, which is greater than a half.

Here is the algebra. The chances of a sweep are p2 + (1-p)2. The chances of a split are p(1-p) + (1-p)p = 2p(1-p). If we subtract the probability of a split from the probability of a sweep, we get p2 + (1-p)2 – 2p(1-p) = (p-(1-p))2 = (1–2p)2 >= 0.

If p=.5, then there is an equal chance of a sweep or a split. Otherwise the probability is always greater for having a sweep.

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