Do Trump supporters care or even know that Trump criticizes military service?

Here is where trump calls John Mccain a loser and a coward for being a POW in the war. I can link a few other worthy news outlets where this is verified for those that will dispute the fact. Remember, trump was a draft dodger himself. Draft dodger trump
For those republicans that think it is okay for trump to go after the military, you need to give thanks every single day that we, the US, have not been attacked. Yet. If trump gets in office, no one knows what will happen to our military.

Trump supporters don’t care. They dismiss facts and logic. It doesn’t matter what Nikki Haley (or the man in the moon) says – Trumpies simply don’t care. To answer your question: they ignore it.

What’s amazing to me is that I think of Republicans as very patriotic yet they will give this a pass, along with all the other things Trump has done that are bad, like saying he grabbed a woman by the pussy, making fun of the reporter who had cerebral palsy, calling women horse face and fat, all kinds of things and yet they excuse everything.

The comments about John McCain are just terrible. He gave up years of his life and was tortured, not knowing whether he’d live to ever see his family again.

Sigh At it again. Yep, He asked where Haley’s husband was. But the video clip provided relies on Haley to make the spin that Trump was going after all service members. That isn’t true at all. Here is a much more extended version of the same clip used by the OP. All he was doing was identifying that one of the eyewitnesses to her claiming she would never run against Trump isn’t present. “Where is he?” Trump may not have known he was deployed. But hey, we have Haley making a campaign speech so that must prove her point. Because she would never lie.

Wait, if she would never lie, then what does this tell us? Haley doesn’t love her husband? Huh. Maybe her husband volunteered for the deployment to get away from her. Isn’t it fun to take things out of context and try to turn them into something else?

But seriously, Where is her husband. Yes, he is in Djibouti…but why? He is part of the SC National Guard. I’m pretty sure the entire SCNG did not go to Djibouti for a year. He had a very strong reason for not going…his wife (the former governor) was campaigning to be POTUS. Having been in the military, I understand better than most on these pages how it works. In the regular military, if you are told you have to go somewhere, you have to go. There is no arguing. But you can request if you have a need to not be deployed. Example, if your husband or wife was in the hospital and dying, you could request not to be deployed and it would likely be granted. Having your spouse running for POTUS would be a perfect reason to avoid deployment. Especially if that spouse has a good relationship with the current Governor. Yet he is not here. Seems odd.

The more I’m looking into him, though, the more questions start to be raised. He has a colorful past including starting a business that leased slot machines to the Catawba Two Kings Casino. In payment he and his partner, John Clyburn (brother of US Rep Jim Clyburn (D-SC)) got shares in the casino. This was suspicious since the brother of a US Rep and the Husband of the SC Gov were both getting payments that enriched their families…the families of elected officials.

The more I dig (and don’t just depend on Nikki Haley’s spin), the more I see the point behind the question of “Where is Michael Haley?” Not just where he is, but why is he there? Why did he go on a year long deployment just as his wife was starting into a presidential campaign?

Hmm. Where is Melania? Haven’t seen her on the campaign trail. Maybe she hates her husband.
She’s not deployed anywhere. Yet she is not here. Seems odd.

@chyna That’s a fair question, but not really pertinent. I can think of a great reason for her not campaigning. Look at how she (and all the Trump children including Baron) were treated the first time around by the Dems and the malicious media? I think after being dragged through the pages with vile attacks and denigrating speculation, a little private time would be a great thing. And it might be that she does hate Trump. If I remember right, that was already given as a reason for her not campaigning with him.

Uh. Trump has a history of going after this country’s armed forces. Even going so far as to paint former POWs like Trump’s former competitor Sen. John McCain as cowards.
That specific bit of history, Trump really screwed up.
McCain was, at one point, allowed to leave. He stayed, because of his fellow soldiers. An impeccable example of strength of character by McCain.
Trump never had the desire, or ability to serve his country.
Trump is so insecure, he commonly picks on disabled people, and obviously women he has sexually assaulted.

My father, and many men on my father’s side of the family are generational ARMY guys.
The older guys I know, are pretty offended by Trump. However. They are loyal. They’ll follow whomever the nation elects.
Trump, as always, shits right on his supporters.

Again. I’m not referring to anything I have not heard Trump himself say. Sure left leaning media louds Trump out. But they have no reason to manufacture any false news on Trump. He gives them new material EVERY day!

What darkly amuses me, is that this is Trump’s race to lose. If he just layed low, he’d coast in for the win. But. Trump just HAS to keep running his stupid mouth.

Trump hate America AND fucking loves PUTIN !
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. . . . Do you think Putin has “Golden Showers ” videos of Trump and Russian bimbos ? ? ?

@seawulf575 Anyone following Haley the last few months knows her husband is deployed. If Trump didn’t know he has been under a rock.

I actually have consistently said I don’t care if Melania didn’t spend much time in the White House and I also don’t care if she is campaigning with her husband, so I’m equal opportunity regarding the spouses of candidates, but Trump seems to be a hypocrite.

The idea that Nikki’s husband purposely deployed to get away from her sounds ridiculous to me, but as I said, I just don’t care. Married couples can do what they want. I also didn’t care that Hillary chose to stay with Bill, which some people seemed obsessed with.

^I’m not obsessed with it, but Hillary not throwing Bill out, after what he was up to told me she either didn’t stick up for herself, or she was willing to overlook ANYTHING to obtain her goals. Like Trump with his supporters, I think Bill really pushed the envelope. I’d actually say he tore the envelope to pieces.
If I believe what I recall, Bill was frequently stepping out on Hillary. Far worse, he was walking around the fucking Whitehouse smoking random vagina smeared cigars, and the whole country/world found out.

I don’t hate what Bill did, as POTUS. In his marriage, he was a monster. Or… Again. There could be more convenient political arrangements that were supposed to stay in house, like maybe Hillary didn’t care because the marriage was never more than a business/political move.

In my “opinion” if Hillary let Bill walk all over her, she had no business as the number one. I was as shocked as anyone when she lost to Trump.
THAT should speak volumes. That she let him stand ominously behind her on stage, and never took Trump to task in debates, looking weak and maybe even too appropriate with him.
She should have turned around and told Trump to back off. She isn’t stupid, yet couldn’t butcher probably the worst POTUS to EVER participate in a debate.
If she fact smashed Trump, stood up to him, and easily picked him apart because he’s an idiot when he goes off script.

Biden was classy. He repeatedly tried the higher road. However. He said the best thing anyone maybe EVER said (I am paraphrasing) “will you shut up!?” as Trump kept trying to speak over him. THAT is where you beat the bully. In front of the whole school.

Biden can lead/follow instructions with vigor. He just looks SO tired.

So. We have the lesser of two evils, AGAIN. If one, or both don’t die, or end up in federal prison.
“Rock tha vote America!”

@MrGrimm888 Well, the Democrats who spoke out against Hillary with venom, often because of something related to her marriage, helped Trump win in my opinion. It helped the fanatic Bernie people not vote at all or write-in or vote third party, and it helped the Independents not vote for Hillary.

Did you vote for Hillary in 2016?

Do you think Bill Clinton was a good president?

Are you married for 25+ years and your work and interests are very intertwined with your spouse? It might have been like a divorce situation in their house for years until maybe she forgave him, we don’t know. That’s their business.

I only heard him asking where he was, not criticizing our military.

The worst thing’s I’ve ever heard about our military were on this site by Democrats. Just poor eople looking for free college, uneducated hicks, etc…It made quite an impression.

@JLeslie The question you started made the assumption that Trump hated military people. That was a HUGE leap from what was actually said. I get that Haley’s your girl, but really, that is a stretch to take the question “Where is her husband?” and turn that into “Trump hates all military people”. What you posted was a link that was effectively a Haley campaign speech. I think “Why did Michael Haley go on a year long deployment?” is a fair question. If he didn’t want to be part of the campaign, then say that. To act like he didn’t have an option is bogus. Trying to shame anyone that dares to question this is even worse. It shows how Democratic she is. As @Chyna asked, where is Melania? But that has already been answered. She’s worn out with the spot light. I can understand that.

I really don’t care where either spouse is. I didn’t care that Trump asked (didn’t really know until this question). But suddenly, because it’s Trump, the left tries to turn it into something it’s not. And that is what the left needs to understand: America is tired of that. That is why every time the left tries some nasty legal maneuver Trump’s approval points go up. That’s why every time so media outlet tries to make something out of nothing about Trump, his approval goes up. Americans are tired of the lies from politicians and the media. They are tired of the games that show how weaponized the government has become.

If someone really wants to beat Trump, they need to do it with a solid plan. They need to identify the hard topics that impact the real Americans, not just their base, and they need to lay out the plan for dealing with these things. On one question, somebody (I think it was you) posted the lay out of Haley’s plans if she is elected. I responded that most of what she posted she would not have the power to do as POTUS, and the few things she could do were basically window dressing and that she didn’t address the Southern Border at all. Trump was asked in an interview what the first things he would do as POTUS if re-elected. He responded ”We’re gonna close the border, Day One. The border gets closed. … (crowd applauding) … And Day One and a Half, we drill. You know we drill, baby, drill. Drill. Drill. Drill. … (crowd applauding louder) … And probably on Day Two we’ll get rid of this ridiculous electric car mandate … (crowd continuing to applaud)” In those couple sentences he pointed out several things he was going to do, that the POTUS has the power to do, that could have almost immediate benefit for most Americans. No other candidate does that. DeSantis didn’t do it and Haley hasn’t done it. And certainly no one from the left has done it.

@KNOWITALL Click on my link in the first answer to see where he disparages John McCain, a Republican, for being a loser because he was a POW.
When people say they have never heard Trump say or do the things that are clearly in the news, on multiple medias, I feel that it means his followers are turning a blind eye to what he is really saying and doing.

@JLeslie “Well, the Democrats who spoke out against Hillary with venom, often because of something related to her marriage, helped Trump win in my opinion”

No it was because she January 6thed the Democratic Primaries (successfully). She architected the fuckery of the DNC in primaries ever since. It’s happening this round too. Instead of Biden not running for a 2nd term and risking a progressive candidate rising up in the debates, they’re going to run out the clock on the primaries, then Biden will step down and the DNC will anoint their next puppet. Anything to prevent voters from electing who they want.

Some of them are just against whatever a Democrat or liberal does.

They also only supported the military because they were still high on 9/11 fumes.

@chyna I heard the whole John McCain thing in 2015. I didn’t like it, asinine comment. We shouldn’t have to pick between two old white assholes, regardless.

Trump comments on McCain video. “He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” WTF?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNugcPeCZZE

@seawulf575 I don’t assume Trump hates the military. I don’t think that.

Trump comes from wealth and trying to avoid the draft. Just like he thinks avoiding paying taxes using the law is normal so is avoiding being in the military. Avoiding can be medical reasons, moving to Canada, going to college, or joining a part of the service that does not see combat.

@JLeslie It’s definitely Hillary’s business. I was just explaining how I personally felt about it.

I was too young to vote for Bill. I thought what Bill did was deplorable, but at the time I assumed ALL people in power had dirt, and the disrespect he showed Hillary could have been acted on by her. Unless she signed a prenuptial, she would have easily won a very lucrative divorce case.
I felt that Hillary always tried to do/say whatever she thought would make her likeable.
Instead of having a well defined position on controversial topics.

She also came across as if she was entitled to the office, and it was just a formality that she would have to beat possibly the worst republican candidate ever.
She talked about potential voters as “deplorables.”

The DNC also misread the reality of the situation.

Many Trump voters have eventually admitted that they first voted for Trump, BECAUSE he was never in any public office and they wanted change. Any change.

Now. If the DNC has confidence in Biden and Harris, I can only wonder why.

My tea leaves, say Americans will hold their noses again, and vote for Trump.

For those saying Trump’s “where is he?” comment is innocent, you are either being deliberately obtuse, or you didn’t see/hear him say it. It was with his typical flare. Do yourselves a favor, and imagine Hillary saying the same thing. Or Biden.

Good point @MrGrimm888. When Trump made the comment about Haley’s husband, it was with the shrug and the little grin – it wasn’t just the words, it was the body language.

^Correct. As always, I am judging Trump by his own words. Not transcripts. His stupid voice he uses, when he thinks he’s being clever. He’s a dumbass.
The way he said it was 100% intended to insult Haley, however, Trump as always didn’t care about anything else but himself and he wanted to say something that his mob would love, and others would fuss over. Anything to stay relevant.
And it is NEVER beneath Trump, to insult ANYONE, as long as he feels like it helps him.
And that IS Trump’s defense, EVERY TIME, that he just shouldn’t be responsible for anything.

It’s not out of context. It cannot be spun, when observed.
It’s not anything other than what it is.
What it is, is Trump trying as hard as his 3rd grade brain can, to go after people’s loved ones, because he is completely unable of providing factual or logical arguments.

Trump is mad AF, at all these mortal scumbags challenging his infallibility. So the dumbass continues his war with all who would see him held accountable for his actions like everyone else.

He’s very predictable. If he’s talking about someone, his pathetic ego is hurt.
The fact that Trump could AGAIN have just coasted to a win against Haley without resorting to childlike insults, shows his weakness.
His own mouth.

I love when his lawyers are told to “sit down” and STFU !

He almost starts to cry – - Ha HA ! He is such a wimp and flaming asshole.

He has lost control on most of the cases and knows it; but keeps fighting with lame and irrelevant statements.

@MrGrimm888 The point I was going to make about Bill is it was horrible how he treated Hillary, but many people think he was a very good president. So, the guy who cheats still gets credit for being able to run the country, but his wife, who didn’t cheat, but decided to stay in the marriage, supposedly can’t be trusted to be president.

I think it’s especially horrible that women turned on her for that specific reason. Some people don’t like her for other reasons, that’s something else.

Hillary and Bill are a power couple, she is not financially dependent on him, she is not stuck, she chose to stay. Their relationship is much more than a romantic relationship, it’s practically a business, and I think they both are extremely supportive of each other in career and other goals. That’s my impression anyway. Bill was an idiot for straying and obviously he has a problem controlling himself even when he is governor or president and risks EVERYTHING. It is unbelievable, I do agree with that.

^That’s a very sad, but hugely valid point.
One I am aware of. The world IS full of double standards.
Bill and Hillary could be a perfect example of that.

It is relevant that Trump supporters, regardless of gender, don’t seem to care if Trump is an active sexual predator.
I view elections, as a barometer of how most Americans think.

A presidential election, is a prime opportunity for women to advance their cause, and hold men accountable for their actions.

I don’t like to throw out my family’s dirty laundry, but can we just say that I am fully aware of how men can be, when you aren’t one. That is to say, when I was a boy, and not capable of defending myself from men.

If this dynamic is to EVER change, women can’t continue voting against their interests.
It’s not like it’s a secret what the GOP has planned for females, if they gain complete control.

@JLeslie In my opinion, women’s rights are in their own hands, now. I do not vote.
But. I do get a sad thrill from being correct about humanity’s true nature.

I’m exhausted from hearing women crying about unequal treatment, when they often are THE reason for why they are treated how they are.
A brief skim through tictok will reveal thousands of young women, ALL cementing their places as no more than vain sex objects, in the eyes of their male counterparts.
From Instagram “models,” to Halloween costumes, the female race is screaming for sexual attention. Not fair pay, or reproductive rights.
In 20 years, I don’t know if there will even be a future female politician who won’t have some type of illicit content of them online. It WILL be difficult for Americans to take a person seriously, whose acts of youthful indiscretion are permanently available on the internet.
Like we agree, men like Trump and Bill, are NOT held accountable for their actions.

If Trump wins in 2024, I will blame women. Because Trump would NEVER even have a chance, if women treated him like he treats them.

To establish societal norms, we must reward those who positively contribute to our lives, and at least not reward those who would attempt to profit from oppression or undue privilege.

Americans are on the clock. Who will they select, to lead the world’s most powerful nation, through an extremely evolving and complex time in history?

@JLeslie “I don’t assume Trump hates the military. I don’t think that. Of course you do. Look at this question that we are all discussing. You asked it. It basically asks if Trump supporters will know or care that he criticizes military. It starts with the assumption he did criticize the military and goes from there. He criticized, or rather questioned, why Michael Haley was not campaigning with Nikki. It was Nikki that made the jump to saying he hates military…if you criticize one you are criticizing all. No, that is a false assumption. But you bought it and believed it and are spreading it. Yes, you do believe Trump hates the military.

Yep, Trump didn’t go into the military. Yep, he comes from wealthy parents. Both true statements. But you are mad at him because of that? Let me ask: did you serve in the military? Did you come from wealthy parents? Trump was of age that he could have been drafted. In fact he was registered for the draft. He had bone spurs once. That is a medical excuse that nixed him from service. Do you have any idea what constitutes someone that is unfit for service? There are a whole litany of things. Something like flat feet is enough. And with things like that, the service can accept you if you are borderline, but they will need to take action to correct the problem. I worked with a guy that was accepted into the military with flat feet. The navy did surgery to correct the problem and made it worse. He was medically discharged with a permanent disability that he is now paid for the rest of his life. Would you rather something like that happened with Trump?

Other drafts he was in college. And as much as that seems to gall you, that was an out for young men registered for the draft. You want to brand Trump as a draft dodger. But apparently you have no clue as to the definition of a draft dodger. You do realize it is someone that avoids military draft through illegal means, right? College was one of the legal ways to avoid military service. If you don’t think that was fair, it isn’t Trump’s fault. Take it up with the federal government. I will tell you that there is a reason for that option but hey, you wouldn’t want to believe it anyway. It’s Trump! It’s gotta be some smear.

Your entire statement here shows how your views are tainted when it comes to Trump. “He dodged military service because medical reasons and college are just ways to dodge!” “He avoids taxes by following the laws!” You are becoming unhinged when it comes to Trump. Hell, do you ever take tax deductions? Then you, too, avoid taxes by following the law. Ever defer payments until later years? Darn it, you did it again. Ever file for an extension? Again!

Stop trying to be sane and logical when it comes to Trump. It isn’t working. Just follow @Tropical_Willie‘s style and rant because it’s Trump. It would be easier for you.

@seawulf575 Nope. You are wrong. I don’t think he hates the military. He might think it’s foolish to risk your life, but I don’t think he hates the military.

I also don’t think he hates Jews, but he certainly will put us in danger by inciting people who do hate Jews. It’s a similar theme.

I also think he is like the boy who trips someone and laughs when they fall. He says things anti our soldiers and then when the military families still adore him he laughs at them. That’s what I believe. Like a man cheating on his wife in a room at a party while his wife is just 30 feet away.

@MrGrimm888 You say women need to vote, but you don’t vote?! Why don’t you take any responsibility to help society and vote?

@JLeslie Those that hate Jews need no inciting. They don’t need any reason other than you are a Jew. Hitler sure didn’t. And Trump showed far more support for Israel than just about any president before him.

As for Trump hating the military, if you don’t believe that, then why this question? Why put forth that he criticizes all military personnel because he asked where Michael Haley is? I know Nikki said that, but as an ex-military person I can tell you I didn’t feel that about his question. Military people are likely asking the same question: He didn’t have to go away for a year while his wife was campaigning for POTUS, why did he? Most military people don’t really like it. There are some that are adrenaline junkies, those that have a hard time adjusting to civilian life because it is too dull. But I’m not picturing a National Guard engineer as being an adrenaline junkie. I don’t know the guy, but that is not the roll they typically take. So why did you ask this question? Just to have a “slam Trump” question? Get lots of GAs and GQs?

He’s also very direct in demeaning his ‘enemies’ as we’ve seen. He’s implying something off about Haleys husband but I’m not sure what that is quite yet.

@JLeslie I will vote, when a candidate deserves my vote.

I will spare you all, from my feelings on voting. Most already know.

@seawulf575 As a former member of our armed forces, it surprises me that you are okay with the “bone spurs,” story.

A former history teacher of mine, had flat feet. When he was trying to join the military, they made everyone step in water, to see if they had arches in their footprint. Obviously. Flat feet, are really bad for the ARMY.
He scrunched his feet, so that he made a footprint that looked normal.
He was one of two men who carried a large machine gun, and turret. He said that his marching with the heavy equipment was almost unbearable. But. He was not going to be held out, of representing his country.
He was a Korean War vet.

My father was a Vietnam vet. Wounded in his second tour.

That ,let’s say older generations of men, look down on people like Trump.

It is of little doubt, that the ONLY reason Trump wasn’t drafted was not his convenient bone spurs. Bone spurs can also be easily fixed. That’s considered a BS excuse for getting out if military “duty.”

He wasn’t drafted, and attended a prestigious college, solely because of his father’s money and power.

Again. Trump has a mix tape, of publicly talking down about the US military.

@KNOWITALL Where you interpret Trump as “direct,” I see him as acting like a schoolboy. His insults are often the stuff of juvenile ignorance.
The reason you don’t know what Trump is getting at, is he doesn’t have a point. He just likes to say things loudly, with odd insinuations. Usually leaving his sheep to wonder about his enemies. But with no real reason, other than just to distract you from actually putting him under scrutiny.

@MrGrimm888 I’ve had bone spurs. I’ve had them in my shoulders. They are extremely painful and debilitating. Yes, they can be dealt with through surgery. But any of the armed forces are going to require a whole lot of time on your feet, standing, walking, running, carrying things, etc.I met a woman one time that had bone spurs in her heels. She had to have special shoes just to walk around and even then it was painful for her. And obviously the bone spurs were enough to have the draft board pass on him. Most likely they recognized that the first thing they would have to do with this “new recruit” is to do surgery that would require an extended recovery time. That is not what you want to do with a person you want to be able to get trained and into the field as quickly as possible.

Look, I get that you don’t like Trump. If he farted rainbows and rained down $100 bills on all of America, you’d still say it should have been $1000. In the end, he didn’t serve in the military because of the rules of the draft. Like it or not, there were rules. Not everyone that was drafted served. Not everyone that was eligible got drafted. Medical reasons were one out, college was another. It does sound, however, like you don’t like him because his parents were rich. That is what it all seems to come down to. That is your issue, not his.

Yeah, I’m sure some lib out there came out with a mix tape, cutting and splicing things he said to make it look like he said things he didn’t. Or hell, why not just create things out of thin air like the “losers and suckers” comment? You know, the one that was carried by numerous lefty outlets that cited an anonymous source and for which there is absolutely no evidence nor corroborating statements? You know how I feel about the “facts” from the left. This question is a perfect example. What Trump said about Michael Haley did not, to me, slam the military at all. But as soon as the left runs with the “Trump slammed the military” story, it suddenly becomes facts. I’ve seen a number of rallies and speeches where Trump praises the military. I’ve seen times when, before taking the stage, he is pausing to acknowledge and thank military people and vets that are there. That doesn’t mean he is pro military, just as all this bunk doesn’t mean he is against the military.

I love how @seawulf575 is operating under the notion that Trump actually had bone spurs.

@gorillapaws Ahh….you were the doctor there? Interesting. I didn’t know you even had a medical degree. Nor did I know you had ever enlisted in the military. Guess I’m learning all sorts of things today, eh?

I was a LEO. It’s no joke that sensible footwear was very important. Foot health, was a constant problem.
In my company, we had people who dealt with various physical issues or injuries.
If you worked, you had countless physical confrontations, or worse had to stand in places for 12 hours.

Bone spurs. Diagnosed with x-rays (real,) on heels can be treated with any average vegetable can. The spur is a calcium deposit. Rolling the can back and forth over the spur, although unpleasant, will wear the spur down.

The reality is that Trump needed college, just like he currently needs to be POTUS.
To escape responsibility.

Physically. Trump definitely does not appear to have much athletic ability.
However. He sings himself many praises, and boasts of his physical and mental prowess.

You have seen men break, under duress. You, Trump, and I all know that he is not a soldier.
Just as we know that people his age, without money or influence, had plenty of “reasons” to be ineligible but served.

You served. I thank you.

You have stated your opinions, and you have proven (to me) plausible deniability for Trump.

I believe that Trump would have likely not had even a margin of his success, without his father’s wealth.
He wouldn’t have what little actual wealth he does have, he wouldn’t without a $400 million jump start, followed by billions in ill-gotten gains. (As evidenced in part, by his recent $400 million fine, loss of multiple financial privileges, loss of control of his own companies in his “home base,” and other penalties.)

Your boy has a history of deceitful, and criminal behavior.

If he can’t sleeze his way into office and escape accountability, he WILL have to face the ramifications of his actions in multiple courts.

I think we ALL know how much power Trump will have, if he doesn’t win ‘24. The entire GOP will send his fat ass walking (bone spurs and all) into whatever fate befalls him.
I expect many would drop support for him immediately, in DC.

I must also admit that I only majored in physical therapy (Didn’t graduate,) so I have no medical degree to tout. Just some medical knowledge.

However. My bullshit radar is quite good. You do not have to accept that. Denial is a powerful thing.

@seawulf575 ”...you were the doctor there?”

No, and to be absolutely clear, I’m not making the claim that Trump was misdiagnosed with bone spurs based on the physical examination and any radiography that may have been produced, where having a medical degree might be relevant to the discussion. The claim I’m making is that Dr. Larry Braunstein committed medical fraud as a favor to the landlord of his podiatry office, Fred Trump. This is the claim made by Dr. Braunstein’s surviving daughters.

There is nothing out of character about lying to avoid military service in Donald Trump’s career.

@seawulf575 “Nor did I know you had ever enlisted in the military.”

Out of curiosity, how would my military service or lack thereof in any way inform the conversation about whether Dr. Braunstein committed medical fraud?

Trump would have been Private “Pile,” in “Full Metal Jacket.”

Bone spurs, or not, they’d have ran his ass until he broke. If he ended up in the ARMY, or Marines.

The fact that he dodged the draft would (like most if his problems) not be such an issue, if not for his own words.

People can definitely use soundbites creatively, to make someone look bad.
That’s why Mr. Genius should have learned by now, not to say stupid crap. But stupid crap, endears him to his base. Why? I’ll NEVER fully understand.

Trump’s actual spoken words, in the tones he uses, with the childlike emphasis on sounding like a 7 year old bully is what has made him SO many powerful enemies.

In a true democracy, the people should be the highest power.

Trump ,if he ever was, is not “for the people now.”
He’s scrambling. He’s not good at that. He can reaffirm a small audience of his sheep. But he is NOT cut out for the trouble he has train wrecked, up his own ass.

I think if he spoke like Pence, rarely, his criminal empire would not be under the microscope.

Dick Cheney made countless millions off of the American people, and negatively effected billions. He started wars, for his own gain. But. He didn’t brag about it, publicly.
He somehow qualified to get a donor heart, (maybe because of his bone spurs?) and will likely not only never be held accountable, he will die uber wealthy and without the lawsuits that will plague Trump forever.

Because Cheney, other than shooting a man in the face, has not been living loud like the Trump circus.

@MrGrimm888 “The reality is that Trump needed college, just like he currently needs to be POTUS. To escape responsibility.” Really?!? Being POTUS has no responsibility? Stop. You lost credibility with that one statement.

@gorillapaws So the good doctors daughters were there when the determination of bone spurs was made. They helped daddy cover up his malpractice. Good to know. It obviously couldn’t be that they were trying to cash in on the “hate Trump” delusion that has swept our country, fueled by a whole lot of false claims. Sorry, I didn’t buy that when I first heard about it, nor do I buy it now. I’m not surprised that you buy it though.

As for military service (and I’m right that you never enlisted at all, right?) it has nothing to do with you believing some story about Trump. It has to do with you understanding the process of enlistment and what goes into it and what will make a person ineligible for service either temporarily or permanently. This is all stuff you know nothing about, but you love to spout as if you do.

@seawulf575 You missed @MrGrimm888 point.

As POTUS the Turd can tell the DOJ to stop the Federal cases against him . . . . DUH !

@Tropical_Willie Gee, just like the current POTUS can tell the DOJ to go after his political rival? Amazing. Face it, if Trump weren’t running for POTUS not a single one of the prosecutions would have even started. If you can’t see an abuse of power I suggest either an eye exam or a psych exam.

You are DRINKING far too much Trump Kool-aid @seawulf575 or . . . . . . . is it “golden showers” you are drinking ? ? ? ? ?

None of the GOP leaders have found your Trump’s delusional accusations true, they may claim they are but NO PROOF !!!

Try again maybe Trump is the second coming of JESUS ??

Ok, go for the psych exam.

Where your swastika tattoo ?