Would you care if Elon Musk went to jail?

I would care.
I’m fully aware of Musk’s flaws.
However. I believe that he is a once in a lifetime type of person. He WILL advance the entire species.
It’s not that he’s THE smartest guy. It’s his willingness to go full throttle at something that makes him unique.

When his first giant rocket blew up, Musk barely blinked.
He claims he expected it to fail.
He expects to fail at many things, in the pursuit of achieving them.

I am not comparing him to Trump, in ANY WAY, but I said the same thing about Trump in that people like that rarely really have to fear incarceration.

@MrGrimm888 makes some good points. On the other hand, Elon Musk is an unethical slime and deserves to suffer somehow for his assholeness.

The US isn’t going to extradite him – no way – so jail in Brazil isn’t really on the table.

The broader question: Should paying lots of money be able to get you out of trouble?

@elbanditoroso I was thinking of a similar question about rich people getting away with shit when the guy from the Kansas City Chiefs who was in the hit and run accident a few days ago, and was videos walking away from the scene with his friends, and then was not forthcoming to the police. The player for the Chiefs is the owner of the fancy auto, and his attorney says he is going to make everything right for the victims and take full responsibility, and cooperate with law enforcement, but meanwhile, if it was anybody else, regular people like you and me, the cops would be knocking on our doors to take us down to the station house.

I think I don’t care. If he has broken some serious laws then he should have to pay in some way. I don’t follow what Musk does. I have friends who think he is absolutely horrible, so I assume he has done some truly horrible things, but I also know some of the hate is politics.

Rich people NEVER seem to have to pay for anything that they do wrong!!! Brazilian politicians are even MORE corrupt than US politicians & that pretty dayum corrupt.

I don’t follow Musk at all if I can help it. This report was on my local news & I was looking into it further before running off at the mouth. I don’t care what his politics are. I felt a very strong dislike for him from the very first time that I saw him speak & he’s done NOTHING to change my opinion!!!

My son in law is from Brazil.

The news stories you read about Brazil have nothing to do with reality. Lula is evil to the bone.

It would shake my deeply held belief that rich people are above the law. I hope such a horrible thing never comes to pass.

He is not a citizen of Brazil and he is not breaking any US laws. Musk can tell them to go pound sand.

On an individual level, just considering Musk, I’d be happy if he were in jail, or at least removed from control of any/all the companies he owns large parts of.

I think he’s a terrible, crazy, nasty narcissist jerk, and a great liability to many interests I care a lot about.

And Brazil probably has a point, given how much nonsense he posts, promotes, and provides public forums for. But I don’t expect Brazil has jurisdiction to jail him.

You only need to hear musk talking about something you are familiar or knowledgeable with to know he’s an idiot.
Money should not be a defence for criminality.

Would the US extradite him to Brazil? If not, then all he has to do is not go to Brazil.

I’d have to see what he is accused of specifically, This sounds like a corrupt system trying to push their agenda and punishing those that speak out against them. He is being accused of spreading disinformation and not suppressing accounts of people that disagreed with the government. If that is indeed the case, yes, I’d care if he were punished.

This has got to stop. This idea that if you voice an opposing opinion to those in power then you present a threat to humanity is idiotic and tyrannical. We are seeing it in the US for sure, as well. The effort to establish a disinformation board with punitive powers is a perfect example. George Orwell called that the Ministry of Truth.

This whole thing sounds like another effort to turn all social media into lapdogs for the left. Twitter did that before selling to Musk. Since that sale, several groups have fought to make him censor people those in power want censored. They will use lawfare to get their way.

But how will Elon get his daily doses of ketamine?

Wow, what a completely irrational diatribe by our resident wulf! Turning a question about Musk and Brazil into an anti-leftist screed. That was a jump off the deep end!

Brazil, as a sovereign nation, has the right to make its own laws, and enforce them. They may be wrong, ill considered, or even stupid, but they can do it themselves. Just like Russia, France, China, and so on. It’s a bit arch for @seawulf575 to deny them their sovereignty on the basis of his views on democracy.

As for the whole social media diatribe: the right loves to blame social media for destroying democracy because social media, in general, doesn’t buy right wing crap. That’s the real issue here. People aren’t buying what the right wing is trying to sell.

Well, luckily for Apartheid Clyde, he lives exclusively on twitter, so Brazil can not get to him anyway.

It doesn’t affect my life, so no.

@elbanditoroso I find this lawsuit to be on a par with the one Letitia James is bringing against the Brazilian company. Complete bullshit. If a sovereign nation has a problem with an individual that is not a citizen of that nation, they can prevent him/her from doing business in that country or from visiting that country. But to try someone from another nation under your rules is bullshit. The State Dept ought to be all over this one, but we know they like the idea of punishing Musk for daring to open up Twitter.

I don’t care per se, but he is a despicable person and he represents everything horrible in this country. I wish he would just go away . The world doesn’t need another morally bankrupt, self-proclaimed genius.

I wouldn’t care. As long as he would be sent to jail rightfully. But that goes to everyone not just him

THANKS @ALL!!! I knew that I’d get a lot of differing opinions, but you ALL out did yourselves!!!

You might be interested to know that even if Elon does not go to jail, the people who work for X have been informed they are going to jail.

Does anybody care about that?

I don’t think Musk will go to jail but he may be heavily fined. I’m not supporting Musk or any foreign billionaire who tries to interfere with a country to which he doesn’t belong. No one, including Musk, is above the law.

It’s curious that when Erdogan and Modi’s governments, in Turkey and India respectively, made demands to censor accounts on the site formerly known as Twitter, he was compliant.

One might think Musk is almost sympathetic to ruling fascist governments, and his professed free speech absolutism is a hollow hypocritical charade.

@snowberry Why is Lula evil? I don’t know anything about Brazilian politics.

@Caravanfan My son in law has recently become a Japanese citizen, but he grew up in Brazil, and he talks daily with family there.

If you search the internet for news on Lula, you will find a glowing picture. But the reports of honest people who actually live there in Brazil give a very different story. I’ll ask my son in law to give me an update, and I’ll post it here.